I've been commuting with an ortleib travel biker for two years. It's
not a very tweedy solution but it's large (holds a suit, shirt, shoes,
extra gear,  etc, is completely waterproof, and clips on/off the top
of a rear rack in 5 seconds. Only issue is the weight is a bit high
but think the other advantages offset that.

On Feb 16, 9:31 am, Tony Lockhart <tony.lockh...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> John,
> I'm not sure that my Sam handles the way your Atlantis does,
> especially when considering big climbs. I do know that having some
> books and clothes up front is quite doable even with an 18% grade.
>
> Both, Pass and Stow and Swift Industries, have really good products
> that are very durable. From experience, having a lot of weight up
> front on long climbs is no problem so I'd definitely recommend the
> setup that you're looking into. And I definitely agree with dougP in
> that you should get a basket to try it out. While you have your heart
> set on a new rack and bag setup, the Wald baskets are super cheap and
> convenient. You can easily stuff all of your clothing in the smaller
> Wald basket....I can only imagine what you could fit in the bigger
> one.
>
> On Feb 15, 2:38 pm, dougP <dougpn...@cox.net> wrote:
>
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>
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>
> > John:
>
> > Congrats on getting an Atlantis for a milestone b'day.  Mine is coming
> > up on 9 years old now & it's still my go-to bike for everything.
>
> > On your commute, are you carrying weight on the back and not much up
> > front?  On an 18% grade, that would be twitchy.  I'm not familiar with
> > the specific rack'n'bag combination you mention for the front but I
> > can attest that my Atlantis (58 cm w/40mm tires) handles better with
> > weight up front rather than at the rear, especially on steep grades
> > where speeds are low.
>
> > An easy, economical experiment would be to zip tie a basket to your
> > mini-rack and carry your commute gear there in a stuff sack or similar
> > cheap bag, just to see how you liked the handling.
>
> > dougP
>
> > On Feb 15, 1:18 pm, johnb <jbust...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Last year I got a new Atlantis for my 50th birthday. Originally, I
> > > outfitted it with a mini front rack with a small trunk sack and a Tubus
> > > Cargo on the back end. I bike commute to work 2-3 days/week. My ride to 
> > > and
> > > from work involves 1 or 2 — depending on the route — 18% grades (one way
> > > with a cemetery conveniently located at the top of the steepest part).
> > > Having no weight on the front leaves the front a bit jumpy. My thinking is
> > > that if I put my clothes etc in the front, it will be less jumpy.
>
> > > I have some serious lust in my heart for a Pass and Stow rack for both its
> > > touring capabilities (in theory at least) and its hauling capabilities.
> > > Anyone with P&S/Swift Industries/Freight Baggage bag combination 
> > > experience
> > > I would be *really *interested in your thoughts.  That said, any
> > > experiences good or bad with either the Pass and Stow or other bigger 
> > > front
> > > rack/bag combinations would be greatly appreciated!

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