Patrick

>From my perspective the discussion went sideways because your position came 
off as:

A Roadeo costs >$4k
I will not spend that much
I want a used racing bike
I challenge you to convince me that a used racing bike is guaranteed to 
make me unhappy in the ways that a $4k new Roadeo is guaranteed to make me 
happy
Anything about tire clearance fenders, aesthetics, construction quality are 
explicitly off-limits 

That might not be a fair restatement of your intent, but it is a truthful 
summary of my perception of your position.  I didn't engage because it 
looked to me like a rhetorical trap.  

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