On Dec 21, 2011, at 12:33, David Yu Greenblatt <david.yu.greenbl...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

> Thanks Ryan.
> So is the rule of thumb that for a given size/width Honjo aluminum fenders 
> are lighter than Gilles Berthoud stainless steel fenders? That would 
> certainly make sense.

Seems logical to me, though I don't have similar sized ones to compare without 
taking a bike apart.



> How about stays and fasteners--is there a difference in weight between Honjo 
> and Berthoud?

I doubt there's any real difference. Maybe a little less with the Berthoud with 
the plastic fasteners. 


> Are Berthoud stays and fasteners compatible with Honjo fenders?

They are interchangeable, but if the fenders are pre drilled for one type, you 
might need new holes and/or have unused holes leftover if you switch. 
Aluminum foil tape is great for hole patching!

> I am trying to decide what kind of fenders to mount on a custom 650B rando 
> bike that is transitioning from the daydreaming to the planning stage.

If you're running nothing bigger than a Hetre, the VO Zeppelins are by far my 
favorite. Cheaper than the others, too!


> I like the super long versions of the Honjo fenders. And some of the hammered 
> and fluted versions look gorgeous on the right bike.
> But I think I prefer the Berthoud stays & mounting hardware.

I think you can buy them separately. I have Berthoud hardware on my Kogswell PR 
Black alloy fenders. 

These Honjo fasteners are awesome:
http://www.renehersestore.com/servlet/the-389/Honjo-Hardware-Deluxe-Allen/Detail

Here is a photo I took comparing some 650B fenders:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/7556426@N06/3515429029/

Cheers,
Ryan

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