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On Dec 19, 2011, at 7:42 PM, rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com wrote:

>   Today's Topic Summary
> Group: http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/topics
> 
> The New Philips SR80 - twice the light of the IQ Speed [1 Update]
> joining the club, at least more officially [8 Updates]
> Stolen Bleriot. [1 Update]
> Hunqapillar: crotch-worried [2 Updates]
> Very Amazing! [1 Update]
> 80's Lotus [6 Updates]
> These cranks stink so good! [2 Updates]
> Frame clearance between Ram and Cani-Rom the same? [1 Update]
> Betty Fever... [2 Updates]
> A great link to the best overview I've seen on lighting systems [1 Update]
>  The New Philips SR80 - twice the light of the IQ Speed
> climbthemtns <climbthem...@gmail.com> Dec 19 04:38PM -0800  
> 
> I had to order this from the Netherlands -
> dutchbikebits.com
> Couldn't wait till Peter White stocks it in January as I'm without
> alight right now.
>  
> The SR80 provides nearly twice the light at little more than half of
> the cost of the IQ Speed + battery package.
>  
> Here's the Blog site: 
> http://blog.dutchbikebits.com/2011/12/top-quality-bicycle-lights-for-roads.html?m=1
>  
> I also ordered the Philips LumiRing Rear Light.
> Very cool new design.
>  
> Happy Trails!
> Michael D.
>  
> 
>  joining the club, at least more officially
> Jeremy Till <jeremy.t...@gmail.com> Dec 19 01:18PM -0800  
> 
> Some of you know me, I've been a Riv fan for a long time and have 
> participated here for a few years but up until now I've never had a 
> Rivendell to call my own. 
>  
> However, I decided to take the plunge and on saturday I went into Riv to 
> get a new frame for a fixed-gear daily driver. I was thinking a 62cm 
> SimpleOne would do the trick even though it's a bit on the short side for 
> my ~96cm PBH, esp. if I used upright bars as I was planning to do. 
> However, Vince was really hesitant about the compromises of such a setup, 
> and mentioned something about a bigger frame they had up in the attic...he 
> goes and comes back with a NOS 64cm Quickbeam f/f, from the 2nd (Orange) 
> production run! This just seals the deal for me, since I've always loved 
> Quickbeams, and the orange was definitely my favorite color. Seemed pretty 
> once-in-a-lifetime, so I went for it.
>  
> I'm paying for the frame on a 4-month layaway, so I should take delivery in 
> April, and I'll be building it up myself. Can't wait. 
>  
> Also had a great time visiting, saw Erik of Cosmic Country fame and Manny 
> who was mourning the loss of his Bleriot, but had still ridden by on his 
> old road bike. Got to ride what I think was a 62cm Bombadil with the 
> Bullmoose bars and fenders over Schwalbe Nobby Nic tires, which was a 
> totally bomber setup. The bars esp. were awesome, think I may have to go 
> that route on the QB when I build it up. 
>  
> Pictures when i get it!
>  
> 
> Seth Vidal <skvi...@gmail.com> Dec 19 04:21PM -0500  
> 
> > bars and fenders over Schwalbe Nobby Nic tires, which was a totally bomber
> > setup.  The bars esp. were awesome, think I may have to go that route on the
> > QB when I build it up.
>  
> Jeremy,
>  
> Congrats!
> 1. sounds fantastic!
> 2. where is this attic they have? B/c given the things they've pulled
> out of there I would REALLY like to look around.
>  
> -sv
>  
> 
> Minh <mgiangs...@gmail.com> Dec 19 01:30PM -0800  
> 
> LOL, sometimes i just have to wonder about the guys over at RBW,
> especially with folks lamenting the lack of larger sizes of the SO and
> here you go and find a Quickbeam that's prolly 5? years old just
> sitting in the rafters! Good fortune for you, but what else is up in
> the attics?
>  
>  
>  
> 
> islaysteve <alkire...@verizon.net> Dec 19 02:10PM -0800  
> 
> That's great Jeremy, I can identify (kind of). Goes to show what an 
> in-person visit will do. You'll have fun planning for 4 months, then even 
> more fun riding! Cheers, Steve
>  
> 
> cyclotourist <cyclotour...@gmail.com> Dec 19 02:42PM -0800  
> 
> Fantastic score! Great that they had that unsold!
>  
>  
> -- 
> Cheers,
> David
> Redlands, CA
>  
> **
>  
> 
> "René Sterental" <orthie...@gmail.com> Dec 19 02:43PM -0800  
> 
> +1 on the Bullmoose bars. They're fast becoming my favorite bars!
>  
> Congratulations on your find. I was there on Saturday as well picking up a
> new Dyad 36 SON28 front wheel Rich built for me; must have missed you all.
>  
> Was that the frame that was hanging with the foam wrapping the BB shell?
>  
> René
>  
> 
> "Jim M." <mather...@gmail.com> Dec 19 02:46PM -0800  
> 
> > he goes and comes back with a NOS 64cm Quickbeam f/f, from the 2nd (Orange)
> > production run!
>  
> Great find, Jeremy! The QB is definitely one of my favorite bikes.
> Maybe we can have an Entmoot in the spring when you get it.
>  
> jim m
> wc ca
>  
> 
> Geoff <mocha...@hotmail.com> Dec 19 04:18PM -0800  
> 
> Congrats, Jeremy, on your new Quickbeam frame! My wife owns one along with 
> her Betty Foy, and she loves both! I love how Vince thought about your 
> available options, and then took the effort of going through their 
> inventory in the attic to get the QB for you. The Riv guys are the best, 
> and Vince and Keven(the two that have helped my wife and me) are two of the 
> nicest and most patient guys that you'll ever meet...*anywhere*.
>  
> I have the 150mm Bullmoose bar on my Hunqapillar and love it. Just a 
> beautiful and cool looking bar, with good ergonomics. But I have to 
> admit...that new bar Grant has on his currently named "Bosco Rubbe" bike *
> intrigues* me.
>  
> 
>  Stolen Bleriot.
> Roger <rogerdhod...@gmail.com> Dec 19 02:01PM -0800  
> 
> Oh man, I just saw this thread. Terrible.
>  
> I think Manny's Bleriot, in the many ride and camping threads in which
> it starred, gave me more vicarious enjoyment than any other bike. Like
> all of us, I'll miss it.
>  
> I once recovered a stolen bike by seeing it parked in front of a store
> (probably an unwitting purchaser), I hope the same good luck for you.
>  
>  
> 
>  Hunqapillar: crotch-worried
> Esteban <proto...@gmail.com> Dec 19 06:49AM -0800  
> 
> I'm with Jim regarding lower bars. With a slightly smaller frame, you
> can always quill-up. But you can't quill-down. So, if you can get the
> bars where you want 'em on the 58, and if the effective top tube is
> normal for you, and if it still gives you enough clearance for off-
> road shenanigans, then get it.
>  
> Esteban
> San Diego, Calif.
>  
>  
>  
> 
> Scott Mead <b...@meadiaproductions.com> Dec 19 09:49AM -0800  
> 
> Well, I didn't actually have much choice in the matter when I ordered
> my Hunqapillar. The 48cm was the ONLY one that stood a chance of
> fitting, and it seemed to me to be a little big. I set up one of my
> other bikes at the same standover ... and it made me a little nervous.
> THe top tube on the 48 is also a little longer than my other bikes.
> However, after talking with Keven, it sounded like it would be fine,
> so I placed the order for a 48 with Albatross bars and a 12cm tech
> deluxe stem. I am VERY happy about the fit, and wouldn't wish for
> anything smaller. It rides great and fits perfectly ... so I would say
> don't even worry about the bigger size, especially with Albatross
> bars. Pics of my bike are here:
>  
> http://www.velozen.blogspot.com
>  
> Best wishes for your new bike!
>  
>  
> 
>  Very Amazing!
> Steve Colvin <mscol...@gmail.com> Dec 19 02:37PM -0600  
> 
> I think this could be useful for u
> http://world-zoom.com/inf.php?NewYear Hope u like it!
>  
> 
>  80's Lotus
> Seth Vidal <skvi...@gmail.com> Dec 19 09:15AM -0500  
> 
> > Saw this bike on eBay.. Anyone know about these...
>  
> > Fender clearence
>  
> > Anything?
>  
> I didn't see the link - did you send one?
>  
> I have a 83 Lotus Excelle. It has clearance for about 700x32mm tires
> with fenders. It's not a bad bike. Some nice details.
>  
> Not as smooth as a ride as a riv, imo, but not shabby at all.
>  
> 
> Kelly Sleeper <tkslee...@gmail.com> Dec 19 08:02AM -0800  
> 
> Well evidently all I did was think about posting a link since as you observed 
> it wasn't there. 
>  
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/280791749700?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649#ht_7424wt_1413
>  
> I think I'm going to pass on this anyway.. with shipping just seems high to 
> me.. and I may be wrong.. not to mention I have a 68cm 80's Schwinn Traveler 
> frame on the way.. (winter project) 
>  
> Just curious if my impression of being over priced was shared... I think I 
> offered 150 + 134 shipping seamed to me to be a reasonable value.. seller 
> countered with 295 and I walked away from it.
> Since it looked nice in pictures figured I would ask about it.
>  
> Kelly
>  
> 
> Seth Vidal <skvi...@gmail.com> Dec 19 11:22AM -0500  
> 
> > Well evidently all I did was think about posting a link since as you 
> > observed it wasn't there.
>  
> > http://www.ebay.com/itm/280791749700?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649#ht_7424wt_1413
>  
> yah - I agree $300 looks a little steep. If you could pick it up
> locally $150 would be great for that bike. After you finished swapping
> our various parts and.or just tuning it up - you'd have a nice bike
> at a reasonable price.
>  
> I have to say this - I'm happy with the lotus I have and if I had it
> setup in a road-bike-y style I suspect it would be a nice ride - as it
> is with albatross bars on it I like it for around town and for taking
> on the bus where I'm not crazy about putting the romulus.
>  
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/skvidal/sets/72157628483449711/
>  
>  
> A couple of other Loti you should be aware of:
>  
> http://boston.craigslist.org/nwb/bik/2759025215.html
> http://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/bik/2753403415.html
> http://orlando.craigslist.org/bik/2747372606.html
>  
> just the ones I found on the various craigslists that seem to be your
> size (or thereabouts).
>  
> -sv
>  
> 
> Kelly Sleeper <tkslee...@gmail.com> Dec 19 08:43AM -0800  
> 
> Thank you Seth.. 
>  
> I really have to work on not buying more bikes.. and failing miserably.. now 
> you give me more links that require self control to not purchase.. is there a 
> 12 step program for this? 
>  
> I had also just picked this 63cm bike up for 24 bucks (shipping 49) 
>  
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/6517887433/in/photostream/
>  
> Notice the crank.. :)
>  
> off to craigslist to look at those bikes again...
>  
> Kelly
>  
> 
> Seth Vidal <skvi...@gmail.com> Dec 19 11:50AM -0500  
> 
> 
> > Notice the crank.. :)
>  
> > off to craigslist to look at those bikes again...
>  
> > Kelly
>  
> That's a good looking bike and those biopace rings look to be in good shape.
> You know - I'd take that off your hands for $30.. You'd make a tidy
> 20% profit :)
>  
> -sv
>  
> 
> Kelly Sleeper <tkslee...@gmail.com> Dec 19 10:04AM -0800  
> 
> Sorry I would need 30.45 plus shipping my 5 shot carmel machiato cost 6.45 
> and it would take one of those to box the thing.
>  
> 
>  These cranks stink so good!
> Michael Richters <michael.richt...@gmail.com> Dec 18 11:20PM -0600  
> 
> > The appeal (to me) of the Herse format is that it allows you to go even
> > smaller, like 44/28 or 42/26, or the 40/24 made popular in Riv circles by
> > Keven.
>  
> 44/28, yes, but not (yet, anyway?) 42/26 or 40/24 -- they're not
> offering any big rings smaller than 44 teeth.
>  
> --MR
>  
> 
> William <tapebu...@gmail.com> Dec 19 09:58AM -0800  
> 
> ooooh, perhaps you are right. Maybe I didn't think that through completely 
> since I'm happy at 44. Good catch.
>  
> 
>  Frame clearance between Ram and Cani-Rom the same?
> Michael Hechmer <mhech...@gmail.com> Dec 19 09:17AM -0800  
> 
> Rocky, I know I suggested you not do it, but if you are still interested in 
> converting to a canti fork, I have a pristine, cro-molly, lugged & chromed 
> fork, Electra 760. It has canti studs, generous clearance and a nice bend 
> w dble eylets on the drop outs. I tried it on my '84 Trek 620 and wasn't 
> entirely happy with the bike handling afterward. I could sell it to you 
> for $100, so you could at least try the set up out without making any 
> permanent changes to your existing frame.
>  
> michael
>  
> On Friday, December 16, 2011 1:21:25 AM UTC-5, Rocky B wrote:
>  
> 
>  Betty Fever...
> Smitty-A-Go-Go <54ca...@gmail.com> Dec 18 08:54PM -0800  
> 
> I was a bit skeptical when I read that you put B-bars on a BF, but the pics 
> look great. The wife has expressed interest to try something other than the 
> alba bars that are currently on her BF. Maybe I'll pick up a set of B-bars 
> in the near future. 
>  
> What size basket is that?
>  
> --Smitty
>  
> 
> "René Sterental" <orthie...@gmail.com> Dec 19 08:31AM -0800  
> 
> It's Riv's smaller size Wald basket.
>  
> René
>  
> 
>  A great link to the best overview I've seen on lighting systems
> Anthony King <longleafbicyc...@gmail.com> Dec 19 06:33AM -0800  
> 
> On the page (http://bit.ly/
> > ubhx99) dedicated to the SON 28 he wrote an update on 14th March 2011.
> > In this update he specifically mentions that he ensured that the
> > skewers were properly tightened.
>  
> I didn't see that part of the website. Apologies.
>  
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