Aussie tights. I wear them every day in the winter under MUSA shorts, no underwear. Warm in the cold, not too hot, soft, dry quickly, not too tight. The crotch wears out after awhile.
On 2/20/12, rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com <rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote: > ============================================================================= > Today's Topic Summary > ============================================================================= > > Group: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > Url: http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/topics > > - How many full growlers will an Acorn boxy random bag hold? [3 Updates] > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/t/101660bd4206554c > - Terminological Inexactitude [1 Update] > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/t/700578867cceb42d > - Rust inside frame? [10 Updates] > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/t/b507fd74a6b05ed0 > - SimpleOne in progess and a question [5 Updates] > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/t/e60bea25c65a896a > - East Coast Rivendells / BOBs [1 Update] > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/t/c18f178e40eadb42 > - A Short Trip to RBWHQ [1 Update] > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/t/227e26b78e448d85 > - New Bombadil and AHH [1 Update] > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/t/2e4775ed7aaa5bf1 > - Sackville Grid-Grey Mudflaps for sale, Brand New [1 Update] > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/t/c6f0fa44fad81860 > - My Rivendell 64 cm custom frame remains for sale. Price reduction. [1 > Update] > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/t/a64e7a89096c8a79 > - Aussie tights? Alternatives? [1 Update] > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/t/51e32001a3a5ceb4 > > > ============================================================================= > Topic: How many full growlers will an Acorn boxy random bag hold? > Url: http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/t/101660bd4206554c > ============================================================================= > > ---------- 1 of 3 ---------- > From: Ryan Ray <ryanr...@gmail.com> > Date: Feb 20 10:17AM -0800 > Url: http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/msg/65789950273935bd > > Two! > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/ryanrray/6897492167/in/photostream > > Handling wasn't exactly crisp but I got to the work meeting from Fremont > Brewing with two full growlers in my Acorn boxy radio bag mounted on an > M-12. > > > ---------- 2 of 3 ---------- > From: Lyle Bogart <lylebog...@gmail.com> > Date: Feb 20 01:35PM -0500 > Url: http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/msg/dd64ca4452bc12d3 > > well, now that I know the answer to that, I'll probably get one :) > > > -- > lyle f bogart dpt > > 156 bradford rd > wiscasset, me 04578 > 207.882.6494 > 206.794.6937 > > > ---------- 3 of 3 ---------- > From: Ryan Ray <ryanr...@gmail.com> > Date: Feb 20 10:52AM -0800 > Url: http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/msg/d7a7fa3b93789133 > > Sorry for the typo, my computer was trying to tell me how to spell rando. > Not impressed. > > > > ============================================================================= > Topic: Terminological Inexactitude > Url: http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/t/700578867cceb42d > ============================================================================= > > ---------- 1 of 1 ---------- > From: "David T." <davidtren...@yahoo.ca> > Date: Feb 20 10:43AM -0800 > Url: http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/msg/84601a06aa2adda6 > > There seems to be a notion that a bike frame can be “sprightly” or > “lively”. On the other hand, a frame can supposedly be “sluggish.” I > assume this means that the tubing is more or less flexible. Does > flexible tubing make a bike more sprightly? Couldn’t you just as well > call it “floppy” or “saggy?” Can a bike even be sprightly, after all > it just sits there unless someone gets on it and pedals. Does flexible > tubing even make a bicycle faster, or more efficient to pedal? If it > does then why do the sprinters use bikes that are as stiff as > possible? > > There are words used to describe bicycles that are starting to lose > their meaning. > > “Comfy” gets used a lot, to describe handlebars, tires, handlebar > tape, saddles; even whole bikes probably. I think it has come to mean > upholstered or padded in some way, but that isn’t always the most > comfortable. For example I find a single wrap of cloth tape with a > single coat of shellac to be the easiest on my hands…but that wouldn’t > be “comfy” would it? It brings to mind the dreaded “comfort bike” > which is maybe comfortable to sit on inside the bike shop, but not to > ride from point A to point B if point A and point B are more than > about half a mile apart. > > “Relaxed Geometry”: This has some basis in reality, but can a geometry > really be relaxed? If you push it too far, it isn’t relaxing. ( I > actually like how it gets expanded as “slack” geometry, “forgiving”…or > is that “forgiving” steel tubing? It bet it’s not too forgiving if > someone get whacked on the forehead with it. Would you be forgiven for > that?) You could turn it around and call it “acute angle” or “sharp > angle” geometry, but that doesn’t sound very relaxing. Plus for > someone riding a time trial bike, they may be more relaxed with a more > “open” geometry ( i.e. a steeper seat tube angle. ) I guess the > ultimate “relaxed” geometry is the recumbent bike, which indeed is a > relaxed position, until the first time you try to ride up a hill and > you immediately want to go back to your more uptight upright bike. > > “Quick” geometry, which tends to be another way of saying a short > chainstay. This makes the bike turn quicker, but it tends to get > muddled with thinking that the bike will go quicker or faster, which > of course makes no sense at all. ( Just think of boats and drag racing > cars, the fastest ones are long and narrow, so instead of “quick” > geometry you could call it “slow” or “meandering” geometry…once again, > how can geometry be “quick?” ) Oh, I almost forgot about "quick" > steering...why do I always want my steering to be as slow as > possible? > > If you read the reviews of some bicycles they are almost as bereft of > meaning as one of those fine wine descriptions..."eager", > "aggressive", " responsive", "nuanced", what's next, "insouciant?" > > “Supple” tires….no comment. > > There are lots more of these, does anyone know what I am talking > about? It’s a holiday… > > > > ============================================================================= > Topic: Rust inside frame? > Url: http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/t/b507fd74a6b05ed0 > ============================================================================= > > ---------- 1 of 10 ---------- > From: Seth Vidal <skvi...@gmail.com> > Date: Feb 20 10:10AM -0500 > Url: http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/msg/7199d207e84f1af2 > >> Right, maybe it is, although I didn't notice a smell. Unfortunately I then >> cleaned the frame so I can't try to smell it now... > >> They should make framesaver a different colour to rust! > > Framesaver smells, to me, very sweet. A cloying, almost nauseating smell. > > -sv > > > ---------- 2 of 10 ---------- > From: Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery <thill....@gmail.com> > Date: Feb 20 07:32AM -0800 > Url: http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/msg/f0f4d6858fc82d1e > > Pull the seatpost and hang the bike upside down at various angles to drain > any water that may be inside. If you have the tools, you may also pull the > crank/BB to check for rust. Grease the seatpost and BB threads liberally > before reinstallation. > > Internal rust is usually more of a theoretical concern than a real-world > problem. A thin film of rust on the inside of your frame is normal and > doesn't mean your frame is going to die at an early age. Thick rust deposits > around the BB are usually a sign of longterm neglect of basic maintenance, > but are probably treatable. I don't generally bother with frame saver on my > own bikes because it adds too much weight, but I usually pre-emptively > address potential customer panic by fogging every frame/bike we sell. > > > ---------- 3 of 10 ---------- > From: Damian <damian.jack...@gmail.com> > Date: Feb 20 07:39AM -0800 > Url: http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/msg/2503922ce92609b1 > > Thanks Jim, > > Will do. > > Damian > > > ---------- 4 of 10 ---------- > From: Jay <robin...@gmail.com> > Date: Feb 20 09:57AM -0800 > Url: http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/msg/ae229603d498103f > > Jim, > > Now you tell me. > I treated the frame I bought from Forrest that he bought from you. > If you treat the frames you sell that would mean it got sprayed twice. > Are you serious about weight being an issue? How much can a little > spray weigh? > > Jay > > On Feb 20, 5:32 pm, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery <thill....@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > ---------- 5 of 10 ---------- > From: Jay in Tel Aviv <jayin...@gmail.com> > Date: Feb 20 10:00AM -0800 > Url: http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/msg/a5dda0b208e51e45 > > Jim, > > Now you tell me. > I treated the frame I bought from Forrest that he bought from you. > If you treat the frames you sell that would mean it got sprayed twice. > Are you serious about weight being an issue? How much can a little > spray weigh? > > Jay > > On Feb 20, 5:32 pm, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery <thill....@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > ---------- 6 of 10 ---------- > From: Seth Vidal <skvi...@gmail.com> > Date: Feb 20 01:02PM -0500 > Url: http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/msg/712f2c8d6791e840 > >> If you treat the frames you sell that would mean it got sprayed twice. >> Are you serious about weight being an issue? How much can a little >> spray weigh? > > Mass is preserved. > > At the MOST the weight you could add is the weight of the whole can of > frame saver. > > But you must subtract the weight of the can itself. > > it's trivial. > > -sv > > > ---------- 7 of 10 ---------- > From: "C.J. Filip" <c.j.fi...@hotmail.com> > Date: Feb 20 08:08AM -0800 > Url: http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/msg/d732279695ea5aaf > > At the risk of jacking the OP's thread...is there any benefit to > plugging the vent holes on the fork legs and junction of the seat and > chain stays? Think I read somewhere that beeswax would do the trick. > > > ---------- 8 of 10 ---------- > From: Leslie <leslie.bri...@gmail.com> > Date: Feb 20 10:28AM -0800 > Url: http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/msg/eb1c18e59baaf848 > > I think you want to leave those open, so any water that does get in, can > drain out... > > > ---------- 9 of 10 ---------- > From: Peter Morgano <uscpeter11...@gmail.com> > Date: Feb 20 01:29PM -0500 > Url: http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/msg/bea44cc2f811b265 > > Yeah, the frame needs to breathe, some surface rust inside is ok, you just > dont want pooling water > > > > ---------- 10 of 10 ---------- > From: Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery <thill....@gmail.com> > Date: Feb 20 10:42AM -0800 > Url: http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/msg/8f01c1a69b559a2d > > Re: frame saver adds too much weight > > I often say absurd things for comedic effect. I have to remember that > absurdity is often difficult to distinguish from the things that genuinely > concern some people who are into bikes! Joking aside, the question of frame > saver weight has been asked. > > > > ============================================================================= > Topic: SimpleOne in progess and a question > Url: http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/t/e60bea25c65a896a > ============================================================================= > > ---------- 1 of 5 ---------- > From: brian feltovich <feltov...@gmail.com> > Date: Feb 20 08:33AM -0800 > Url: http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/msg/48b615678228f9 > > That's a beautiful bike, but I have to throw my two cents in on the bar and > stem combo. Ack. Sorry, that's just funky looking. Are you sure you want to > be THAT high up? Beauty's in the eye of the yadda yadda, but ouch. > > Brian > > > ---------- 2 of 5 ---------- > From: "Allingham II, Thomas J" <thomas.alling...@skadden.com> > Date: Feb 20 11:37AM -0500 > Url: http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/msg/27d7f0e3982d0836 > > It's coming down some (and I'll level the saddle, too), but I think the > visual is actually more adversely affected by the fact that the levers are > way too high -- when they come down, the comfort level will actually be > better, I think, and the look will definitely not be quite as loony. I DID > caution that the bike was "in progress", guys... > > -----Original Message----- > From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of brian feltovich > Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 11:33 AM > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > Subject: [RBW] SimpleOne in progess and a question > > That's a beautiful bike, but I have to throw my two cents in on the bar and > stem combo. Ack. Sorry, that's just funky looking. Are you sure you want to > be THAT high up? 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Makes me anxious to start on my SimpleOne build. > > > ---------- 4 of 5 ---------- > From: "David T." <davidtren...@yahoo.ca> > Date: Feb 20 10:21AM -0800 > Url: http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/msg/4e9d3a7528e43e1b > > The bars aren't even all that high. Don't worry if your bike doesn't > precisely match the standards of internet orthodoxy. > :-) > > > ---------- 5 of 5 ---------- > From: Peter Morgano <uscpeter11...@gmail.com> > Date: Feb 20 01:32PM -0500 > Url: http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/msg/bee76dc9f1bd997 > > I am a self-confessed high handlebar guy, you will get guff from the "racer > boy" set out there who think anyone not riding with thier head below thier > read is not a "real" rider but do what is comfortable for you. Love the > look of the simple one, wish I could convince my wife to let me add another > to the stable... > > > > > ============================================================================= > Topic: East Coast Rivendells / BOBs > Url: http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/t/c18f178e40eadb42 > ============================================================================= > > ---------- 1 of 1 ---------- > From: ascpgh <asc....@gmail.com> > Date: Feb 20 04:37AM -0800 > Url: http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/msg/a3f8f1b536f7ef04 > > Joe: > Nice to hear from/of you! Thanks for the plug too. Love to see you > around on that weekend, the GAP is certainly what the NYT article > (http://travel.nytimes.com/2009/10/23/travel/escapes/23passage.html? > pagewanted=all) suggested. I'm working hard against the constraints of > employment to be there the whole time. > > ANDY > Pittsburgh. > > > > > ============================================================================= > Topic: A Short Trip to RBWHQ > Url: http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/t/227e26b78e448d85 > ============================================================================= > > ---------- 1 of 1 ---------- > From: ted <ted.ke...@comcast.net> > Date: Feb 19 09:05AM -0800 > Url: http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/msg/d61b0ea60cbda5e7 > > I really like the looks of the bulmoose bubar on that Bombadil. > Thanks for the photo. > > > > ============================================================================= > Topic: New Bombadil and AHH > Url: http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/t/2e4775ed7aaa5bf1 > ============================================================================= > > ---------- 1 of 1 ---------- > From: Matthew J <matthewj...@gmail.com> > Date: Feb 19 05:38AM -0800 > Url: http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/msg/34feda003e072d8f > > Great bikes and great pictures. Appears the two of you are really > having a blast! > > > > > ============================================================================= > Topic: Sackville Grid-Grey Mudflaps for sale, Brand New > Url: http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/t/c6f0fa44fad81860 > ============================================================================= > > ---------- 1 of 1 ---------- > From: Peter M <uscpeter11...@gmail.com> > Date: Feb 20 10:12AM -0800 > Url: http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/msg/6a2ffbe72488cd00 > > Bought these off a lister but getting a green slickersack and I am a > self confessed bag matcher and cant run two styles on one bike, I know > I know, sad stuff. Will sell for what I paid, 18 bucks shipped for the > pair, brand new. Thanks. > > Peter > > > > ============================================================================= > Topic: My Rivendell 64 cm custom frame remains for sale. Price reduction. > Url: http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/t/a64e7a89096c8a79 > ============================================================================= > > ---------- 1 of 1 ---------- > From: Ryan Ray <ryanr...@gmail.com> > Date: Feb 20 10:11AM -0800 > Url: http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/msg/756054f4e733b7f7 > > Where were you last year? UUUUuugh. > > > > ============================================================================= > Topic: Aussie tights? Alternatives? > Url: http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/t/51e32001a3a5ceb4 > ============================================================================= > > ---------- 1 of 1 ---------- > From: PATRICK MOORE <bertin...@gmail.com> > Date: Feb 20 08:53AM -0700 > Url: http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/msg/11e237e313c7900d > > Has anyone (male) used the Aussie tights ( > http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/ab4.htm) over regular underwear? Are they > decent or are they unstructured and thin enough that they require > hip-latitude corsetry like bike shorts underneath? I did once order a pair > of the earlier Rivendell wool tights and found them just too much like > longjohns to satisfy. > > I'd like to find some long leg'd riding pants that are not too tight but > that are snugger and warmer than the MUSA pants and that don't require a > sub-garment foundation. I presently have a pair of very nice Bell Weather > wind tights that I can wear over my usual boxers -- they are thick enough > that they don't look like a second skin. > > No wind shell type pants, please -- must be woven and breathable but thick > enough for riding down to freezing temperatures. > > Years ago, at least in Britain, they'd make cycling trousers with tapered > and zippered legs, but the only ones I've seen -- Rick Risemberg's design > sold by someone in SF and Raphas, for example -- are not cut right (for me) > at the rear of the waist -- too low and loose enough to allow wind > turbulence and discomfort. And Rapha's are not pegged. So loose tights seem > a good alternative. > > -- > Patrick Moore > Albuquerque, NM > For professional resumes, contact > Patrick Moore, ACRW > http://resumespecialties.com/index.html > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
