On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 11:24, tarik saleh <tariksa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have not had good experience with the viva loops, they do not
> tighten down on the rails well after a while. Anecdotally I have heard
> this can happen immediately.

I agree with all that. I used the Viva loops, they slipped
immediately. I tried to shim them, still no good. I had much better
luck with the Cyclo loops.

James Black
Los Angeles, CA

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