This thread really cheered me up. It's comforting to learn that my
personal struggles with racks and fenders are typical.
Thanks,
...Roy

On Oct 14, 10:22 am, Steve Palincsar <palin...@his.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 2011-10-14 at 06:48 -0700, David Spranger wrote:
> > Installed that same rack on my wife's Betty Foy without too much
> > issue. However, I experienced the same type of frustrations as you
> > when I installed a VO Randonneur rack on my Rambouillet. Looks great
> > now, but it is never coming off again. I also installed this same rack
> > on a VO frame for a friend. It was not as difficult, but not as easy
> > as I would have expected being that it was designed with VO frames in
> > mind. I think the welded on tang is just not the best way to do this.
>
> I have one on my Johnny Coast-built VO 
> Randonneurhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/97916047@N00/sets/72157606169015639/show/http://www.flickr.com/photos/97916047@N00/2669029666/in/set-721576061...
>
> It took several hours to install, and I learned a lot about working with
> stainless steel I never knew.  I had no idea ordinary hacksaws and
> drills would make no impression on the stainless steel other than to
> polish it, and it literally took over an hour to cut the tang and
> another hour to drill it.  I also had to bend, and then re-bend, the
> tang.
> ...

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