Interesting. I wonder why the Kevlar drive would be so much more prone to 
failure than the Kevlar drive belt on my 1400cc motorcycle, which has never 
failed or had a problem? Different Kevlar?




>________________________________
>From: charlie <charles_v...@hotmail.com>
>To: RBW Owners Bunch <rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 5:54 PM
>Subject: [RBW] Re: HS
>
>Well.....I hear those belts are finicky and can be damaged if not
>handled properly. Carrying a spare is not such an easy task either due
>to how you have to maintain the shape or whatever, besides the link
>chain revolutionized the world and I can fix it myself.
>The idea of disc brakes appeals to me though since it rains here so
>much your rims get ground to nothing in no time.
>
>
>On Jun 21, 2:48 pm, doug peterson <dougpn...@cox.net> wrote:
>> Jamison:
>>
>> Good for you to be in a position & have the faith to sign up.
>> Hopefully the first run will get scattered all over the country and
>> NOT concentrated around San Francisco Bay.  Then the rest of us could
>> have a hope of seeing one in person.  All this speculation is
>> intriguing but I predict Grant's got a few surprises in store for us.
>> I gotta admit the dual range crank coupled with an IGH, using a belt
>> drive, has a lot of merit, at least in concept.
>>
>> dougP
>>
>> On Jun 21, 8:31 am, jamison brosseau <jamison.bross...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > I signed up.  I know nothing though.  It will b a good bike.
>>
>> > On Jun 20, 10:58 pm, William <tapebu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > > ....and now SEVEN of them are sold.  I'm pleasantly surprised.  I'm
>> > > waiting for a lister to speak up and say that they've put their money
>> > > down.
>>
>> > > On Jun 20, 7:09 pm, "Bill Gibson (III)" <bill.bgib...@gmail.com>
>> > > wrote:
>>
>> > > > Retro-direct, anyone?
>>
>> > > > My guess is that he means it when theHSwill be a more "elegant", maybe 
>> > > > a
>> > > > more "integrated" design. It may be less of a bike meant to be widely
>> > > > adaptable to different configurations, as many Rivendell designs are. 
>> > > > But it
>> > > > won't be a single-purpose bike at all.
>>
>> > > > On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 6:34 PM, charlie <charles_v...@hotmail.com> 
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > > > Yea that looks pretty cool........off road looking which seems to be
>> > > > > where the Riv folks ride quite a bit.
>>
>> > > > > On Jun 20, 5:29 pm, Montclair BobbyB <montclairbob...@gmail.com>
>> > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > Read more about it here...
>>
>> > > > > >http://tinyurl.com/3g7eyk4
>>
>> > > > > > Could this be it???  If so, that's some pretty funky stuff...
>>
>> > > > > > On Jun 20, 8:22 pm, Montclair BobbyB <montclairbob...@gmail.com>
>> > > > > > wrote:
>>
>> > > > > > > OK folks... HERE is the solution toHS.... (And thanks Esteban for
>> > > > > > > giving me a clue)... It stands for Hammerschmidt... it's a 
>> > > > > > > 2-speed
>> > > > > > > crankset developed by SRAM (similar to the Schlumpf) with a 
>> > > > > > > built-in
>> > > > > > > transmission (in the crank).  It obviates the need for a front
>> > > > > > > derailleur.  The question is whether this will be an all-out 
>> > > > > > > front AND
>> > > > > > > rear internal transmission bike... I say yes, it will.
>>
>> > > > > > > OK, everyone can watch reality TV once again, I'm spent....
>>
>> > > > > > > Peace,
>> > > > > > > BB
>>
>> > > > > > > On Jun 20, 7:47 pm, Roger <rogerdhod...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > > > > > > > "I'm not familiar with the SA 8-speed.  Is the shifter indexed 
>> > > > > > > > or
>> > > > > just
>> > > > > > > > the hub?"
>>
>> > > > > > > > The SA 8-speed hub isn't indexed, but it definitely wants to be
>> > > > > > > > centered into each gear without much feedback. Supposedly 
>> > > > > > > > Sheldon
>> > > > > > > > Brown could do it, but like 99% of the things Sheldon could 
>> > > > > > > > do, it
>> > > > > was
>> > > > > > > > beyond my skills. I miss Sheldon.
>>
>> > > > > > > > Part of the allure of the thumbshifter (which would be about 
>> > > > > > > > equal
>> > > > > > > > with a barend shifter) was that I used the wheel/cable/shifter 
>> > > > > > > > setup
>> > > > > > > > as a self-contained module that I could have on or off of my 
>> > > > > > > > single
>> > > > > > > > speed bike in a couple of minutes with nothing but 2 or 3 
>> > > > > > > > zipties for
>> > > > > > > > the cable and tightening the shifter clamp on the bar. Except 
>> > > > > > > > for the
>> > > > > > > > constant "is it in or out of gear" fiddliness and ker-chunking 
>> > > > > > > > out of
>> > > > > > > > gear under load it was great. I'd like a clamp-on downtube 
>> > > > > > > > shifter
>> > > > > > > > best of all for this concept.
>>
>> > > > > > > > On Jun 20, 2:53 pm, Kenneth Stagg <kenneth.st...@gmail.com> 
>> > > > > > > > wrote:
>>
>> > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Roger 
>> > > > > > > > > <rogerdhod...@gmail.com>
>> > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > > " It would be very cool if they also made a real shifter 
>> > > > > > > > > > for the
>> > > > > > > > > > Rohloff.  I'm not in the market for a new bike but I'd be 
>> > > > > > > > > > very,
>> > > > > very
>> > > > > > > > > > happy to get a bar end shifter that was setup to handle 
>> > > > > > > > > > the extra
>> > > > > > > > > > throw required by the Rohloff!  I'd ditch that damned twist
>> > > > > shifter in
>> > > > > > > > > > a split second."
>>
>> > > > > > > > > > I feel the same way about the SA 8-speed I have and its 
>> > > > > > > > > > twist
>> > > > > shifter.
>>
>> > > > > > > > > I'm not familiar with the SA 8-speed.  Is the shifter 
>> > > > > > > > > indexed or
>> > > > > just
>> > > > > > > > > the hub?  The silly thing about not offering a bar-end or 
>> > > > > > > > > similar
>> > > > > for
>> > > > > > > > > the Rohloff is that the shifter has no indexing - it's all 
>> > > > > > > > > handled
>> > > > > at
>> > > > > > > > > the hub - so the only issues are the dual cable setup (easy 
>> > > > > > > > > enough)
>> > > > > > > > > and pulling enough cable (more work but doable.)
>>
>> > > > > > > > > -Ken
>>
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