Thanks Patrick, I was just on Peter White's website looking for more information before I got your response. You were right to send me there.
I know these are just normal first setup woes that I am contending with here. I'll figure it out. You advice and anyone else who chimes in is surely helpful. I understand the connection between the saddle pushed back and balancing a more aero postion. I think my problem is slightly different. I took the seat and seatpost plust 10cm stem and drop bars off a bike with a 56cm top tube and put them on the Atlantis with it's 55cm top tube. Same height on both. The Atlantis has a .5 degree steeper seat tube as well. This tells me that I might need to push the seat back further to make up for that 1cm plus the diff in seat tube. In practice it doesn't equate. Old bike rode great. Atlantis feels like the back end in sinking, or im riding on a flat tire (im not 60psi before and after ride). This is especially present when climbing a hill. It is as if there was a plumb line from my sit bones to the earth and that spot in the ground is thick mud. When I look at the bike in profile the saddle is slightly higher than the bars, yet in practice It rides like the seat it about 6cm lower than the bars. To try and fix the situation I thought, okay maybe I need to adjust the weight more toward the front so I switched seat posts out for one with less set back and lowered the stem an extra cm - slight improvement. This is the first fat 26 inch wheeled bike that I have ridden in a long time. Could it be just the difference in wheel diameter that gives a different ride? I am going to move the bars to a much lower position (I would try a 120 stem in place of the 110 but I don't have one and it's a pain to rewrap the bars how I like them set up). I will report back. On May 7, 7:29 pm, PATRICK MOORE <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote: > I forgot to add that the remarks below apply, in my case, even to my > Fargo with 65 mm wide tires that I run as low as 12 front/16 rear for > our local sand -- no, it's not a question of tire pressure. > > > > On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 5:27 PM, PATRICK MOORE <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Can you post photos? What sort of bars and what sort of stem? > > > Do you feel as if you are sitting so upright that you can't generate > > adequate power on the pedals? > > > Just possibly your saddle needs to go back on the rails. I've found > > that a rearward saddle position works well -- that is, gives me a > > comfortable back, moderates the weight on shoulders, arms and hands, > > and gives me the most power for a given effort -- with bars of > > surprisingly different altitudes, from 5 cm below to 8 cm above the > > saddle. There seems to be, for me, a certain angle of torso to > > hips/legs that I need for said comfort and power, and if that angle is > > too shallow, it doesn't matter how high or low the bars, all feels > > awkward. > > > You might take a look at Peter Jon White's site on bike setup, > > particularly the part on fore-and-aft saddle position. (PJW's site is > > wordy and rather hard to navigate, but the content is worth the > > effort.) > > > On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 4:54 PM, JL <subfas...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hello all, > > >> I am looking for some advice with setting up a new to me Atlantis. > >> The problem I am having is that the saddle feels so low compared to > >> the front end. Almost like I am riding a chopper-bike. It is the > >> strangest thing and I want help to fix the situation. I tried > >> lowering the bars - that didn't help. I moved my saddle slightly > >> forward from how I would normally ride it and switched to a seat post > >> with less setback -that helped some. Could the tire compression in > >> the rear add that much into the mix (26x1.75)? I am accustomed to big > >> soft tires (hetres) and the Atlantis has a steeper seat tube than > >> other bikes I am comfortable on. > > >> Does anyone have any suggestions? > > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >> For more options, visit this group > >> athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > -- > > Patrick Moore > > Albuquerque, NM > > For professional resumes, contact > > Patrick Moore, ACRW > > patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com > > > A billion stars go spinning through the night > > Blazing high above your head; > > But in you is the Presence that will be > > When all the stars are dead. > > (Rilke, Buddha in Glory) > > -- > Patrick Moore > Albuquerque, NM > For professional resumes, contact > Patrick Moore, ACRW > patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com > > A billion stars go spinning through the night > Blazing high above your head; > But in you is the Presence that will be > When all the stars are dead. > (Rilke, Buddha in Glory) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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