Patrick,

I am really intrigued by this method you've come up with, especially
after seeing that video of the "not-so magnificent 7". While I doubt
there are too many bicycle thieves walking around with 4-foot
boltcutters, it's clear your cheapo solution is better than those
pricey locks.

The one concern I have is the "weak link" of that setup, which is
obviously the cutter-resistant padlock. Even if boltcutters can't mess
with that, is there another common tool that could easily break the
padlock? This post has made me semi-somewhat-super paranoid about
security for my $2500+ RIv, and I don't know what to do.

Also, has it been confirmed that boltcutters can slice through a
kryptonite mini with no problem? That's what I'm using now. The "price
is quality" defect in my thinking says that this $27 solution couldn't
possible be good enough, and the $125 Abus Bordo is the best bet
because it's fancy German engineering.

Obviously, every lock is vulnerable and it's really about deterrence,
but alas...

On Jan 29, 12:22 pm, PATRICK MOORE <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm debating where to leave it -- perhaps at the nearest Sunflower
> market which I ride to 1X a week or so. It's about as small as I can
> make it without compromising use or (wrt lock) security, but at 3lb 3
> oz it's a lb heavier than a large Kryptonite.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 7:29 PM, JoelMatthews <joelmatth...@mac.com> wrote:
> > Right crafty of you Patrick.  Abus level security at a fraction of the
> > price.
>
> > I wouldn't be surprised if this turned out more rugged than many a
> > rack or pole you attach it to.
>
> > The only thing more secure will be when someone figures out how to
> > duplicate the alloy Predator used for its lances.  As I recall in
> > Predator 2 some scientist said it more hard than any known metal yet
> > was remarkably light.
>
> > On Jan 28, 4:12 pm, PATRICK MOORE <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> I have a $50 or so Krypto U lock that I bought a few months ago, but
> >> after seeing the video I went to the nearby True Value and got a 20"
> >> length of their "towing chain" and a bolt-cutter resistant padlock,
> >> all for $27 or so. With a length of innertube to cover the chain, the
> >> ensemble weighs 3 lb 3 oz, and is just long enough to wrap around the
> >> front wheel and down tube of one of my customs and have length to
> >> spare for a narrow post. (These Rivs have small wheels, and since
> >> there is a larger gap between rim and dt, the chain has to be a few
> >> inches longer than for a comparable 622 bike.)
>
> >> The shop man spent a good 15 minutes cutting my length; he got most of
> >> the way through, more quickly, with a bench grinder, but had to finish
> >> the last few mm with a hacksaw. I should have tipped him.
>
> >> On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 10:48 PM, Michael Richters
>
> >> <michael.richt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 5:07 PM, PATRICK MOORE <bertin...@gmail.com> 
> >> > wrote:
> >> >> The chain is very heavy and the man had to cut it with a grinder -- he
> >> >> claimed that a bolt cutter will not get through it. Can anyone tell me
> >> >> how secure such chains *really* are? And how such locks stand up to
> >> >> thievery?
>
> >> > There are some videos here that might help you decide how secure your 
> >> > chain is:
>
> >> >http://www.almax-security-chains.co.uk/
>
> >> > They are selling something, but the videos are still fairly impressive.
>
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