I use a different Abus Bordo (also for Chicago, and surrounding
suburban train stations) for my Hillborne... the one I use is the
Bordo 6500. It is a keyed lock (the other Bordo locks have both keyed
and combination versions). Amazon actually sells the 6500. I have a
Pitlock skewer in the front and a VO frame lock on the back. I leash
my saddle to the VO frame lock. One of these days I'm going to Pitlock
my seatpost too. But it is a little tricky with the frame-integrated
saddle collar to make the Pitlock skewer work well. I just haven't
bothered yet.

Abus says that the Bordo 6500 is in the same league as the best Abus
locks. I don't put too much stock in various lock categorizations,
though. My purely gut feel is that all the Bordo locks have a "weird"
factor that makes me feel better about it. The 6500 is "hefty" in a
way that makes me like it. So, I'm happy with it.

I use a less-hefty Bordo 6000 (also a link-plate lock like the 6500)
on my hybrid (and also have the Pitlock in the front and VO frame lock
in the back). On the hybrid I do have a Pitlocked saddle clamp skewer,
through which I leash the saddle. In that scenario, the saddle *and*
seatpost have some measure of the protection. On my Hillborne, a
couple of allen keys and some time will get a nice seatpost. The
saddle will require cutting a cable or defeating or destroying a lock.
Admittedly, the frame lock is a flimsy one as locks go.

When I got back into biking a few years ago, I got the Bordo 6000 for
my hybrid (at the time I had no Hillborne) because it was easy to
store on the bike, didn't require me to work a combination with frozen
hands in the winter, and allowed me to store the key in the lock when
the bike rests in my reasonably secure garage (I store the key in the
VO frame lock as well). I didn't really choose it because it was a
certain type or a certain price or a certain material. It seems
"strong enough for normal purposes". I believe it's way better than a
department store cable or U-lock. I assume it isn't as good as a high
quality U-lock, chain, or cable. But... I don't have to remember to
bring anything for a basic ride; I just go. I was glad to discover
that Abus had an obviously stronger version when I got my Hillborne;
I'd gotten used to the convenience. In the suburbs for short stops, I
generally just lock the frame lock and take the keys to both locks.

Along the lines of zip-tying bags to the bike... I actually use a
small luggage lock on the zipper and another on one of the leather
straps for the bags I leave on my bike. I know it's not that big a
deterrent. But hey... and completely naked bag literally *begs* to be
taken. If someone took my stay-on-the-bike bag, I'd feel completely
silly. "Of *course* they took it... it was *designed* to be removed
easily!" At least with what I do, I know they had to destroy or defeat
*something* in order the get the bag or its contents. At least it was
some (perhaps tiny) risk for the miscreant.

Yours,
Thomas Lynn Skean


On Jan 25, 4:12 pm, JoelMatthews <joelmatth...@mac.com> wrote:
> I use the Abus Bordo here in Chicago:  
> http://www.lockitt.com/Bicycleproducts.htm#Bordo
> 6100
>
> The Bordo is flexible, allowing me to lock to the most secure
> structure no matter where I ride.  The Bordo holder attaches to water
> bottle cage bosses, making it very easy to carry.  The Bordo is
> flexible enough that I can usually run it through the front wheel and
> the bike frame.  My theory being a rear wheel with fenders, Pitlock
> skewer and the derailer make it highly unlikely anyone is going to try
> and remove the wheel.  If the area is dicey enough, I will loop a
> cable through the rear wheel, saddle and Bordo and lock them all
> together.
>
> I use the German Pitlock skewers Peter White sells, not the VO (there
> are several other knock off brands as well) knock offs to protect my
> wheels.  Pitlock makes a seat lock device, but it only works with a
> seat tube collar.
>
> On Jan 25, 12:56 pm, Minh <mgiangs...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > So, still too darn cold outside for me but dreaming of spring.  As my
> > Hillborne is my first 'nice' bike in forever i've been thinking about
> > bike lock options strategies.  I'm asking the collective because part
> > of me things, "hey this is a nice looking bike better protect it."
> > and another part of me is saying "hey, this ain't no go-fast flashy
> > bike, it's not a target."  so i'm trying to resolve how much i should
> > really worry about locking it up, strategies etc.
>
> > In the past i've always just used a simple cable lock, but that's been
> > on my cruiser (which while it looks really nice, i didn't consider it
> > a theft risk).  As my Hillborne has a few expensive things on it (phil
> > rear wheel, nitto racks, etc) i'm a little more inclined to be more
> > careful, so what are people's approaches?  U-lock the rear wheel+bike
> > to post and then cable to the front wheel?  dual u-locks?  Please keep
> > in mind that i need to carry all the locks as well so something like a
> > kryptonite nyc chain lock is out of the question.
>
> > If it helps this is for around town riding and that would mostly be in
> > and around Washington DC but mostly the suburbs of DC.

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