Thanks Jim

I just looking for a consensus. I agree im gonna ride the snot out of
it, and use my pics as a reference. Im guessing it will be fine for a
long time, but will keep an eye out in the meantime.

On Jan 20, 10:02 am, CycloFiend <cyclofi...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> on 1/19/11 11:56 AM, williwoods at willh...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > Just curious if anyone agrees with various statements/opinions about
> > the clear powdered Rivendell frames I have received on some other
> > forums.
>
> "Rule One About Rivendells:  Don't Talk About Rivendells on Other Forums..."
>
> ;^)  
>
> Sorry... could _not_ resist that.
>
>
>
> > Personally im not too worried about it and I love the visual effect of
> > the pattern (see link of pics I provided above), much prefer the
> > texture over it being totally clean.
>
> I find it pretty interesting looking.  That is a dynamite looking bicycle.
>
> > I havent had my frame long enough to know if the rust effect is
> > growing over time or if its the same as it was when it left RBW HQ.
> > Any other raw frame experiences?
>
> It's possible that people are confusing the idea of clear-coating frames
> with clear powder coating. A few years back, there was a short-lived trend
> to clear coat frames to show off the industrial nature of the TIG welds -
> the discoloration and metal scorching being a kind of tribal tattoo of
> toughness.
>
> This did not work well, as clear coating - the layer that you put over
> traditional "wet" paint finishes - is semi-porous.  That means that enough
> air can get through to encourage the oxidation process.  I saw frames go
> from no rust to completely rusted in a few months.  It was not slow.
>
> Clear powdercoat is different.  It has much less permeability.  I'd be
> surprised if those rust areas changed much over years.
>
> As others mentioned, if you see a steel frame being put together, it's
> amazing how much surface rust is visible.
>
> If it were mine, I'd take some photos and measurements and put it in a file
> somewhere for reference. If I were worried, I might take it to a
> framebuilder to have that person evaluate it directly.  Someone who is
> observing it directly and has familiarity with steel tubes and their
> processes is who I'd trust.
>
> Then I'd go ride the heck out of the bicycle.  Because it's steel, even _IF_
> that rust was going to cause failure, it's steel, and it would fail slowly
> and predictably.
>
> - Jim
>
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