I had several Ideale 90A (?) saddles back in the 1980s.  Had
them mounted on a Merz custom tourer and a Santana tandem.
Sadly, my best buddy and neighbor did not care for the Ideale
and placed his Brooks on the stoker's seat post.

Loved the saddle, but the break-in to break-down period was
much too short.  That time frame was essentially from mile zero
to mile 5,000 at best.  I also never got into the habit of strictly
maintaining a leather saddle that was on a bicycle I rode on a
daily basis.  I always ran into rain.

Perhaps a topic on maintaining these great pieces of bicycle art
(in regular use) would be a timely subject.  I understand periodic
use of Proof Hide, but perhaps there are those of you who have
other suggestions in mind.



On Jan 7, 11:12 am, JoelMatthews <joelmatth...@mac.com> wrote:
> I could never get comfortable on a B-17 or any of the Fizik saddles so
> tried the Berthoud more out of desperation than anything.  Right out
> of the box I had an opportunity to do an ~500 mile trip.  No
> discomfort at all.
>
> As for appearance, I prefer Berthoud to the Brooks.  The Berthoud
> shape is less pronounced.  In my opinion, Brooks has a very strong
> silhouette that pulls the eye away from the lines of the bicycles.  No
> problem, obviously, if you like the Brooks shape.  I am not as
> enamored as some other riders .
>
> Some of the comments to the linked review mention Ideale saddles.  I
> collected Ideale over the years.  I have since sold most but still
> have two in the display case.  They are lovely pieces of history.
> Certainly an Ideale will match well with a correct restoration.
> Unless you have an Ideale that has been well maintained - or stored in
> optimal conditions - it is not going to be as comfortable, work as
> well, or last as long as a modern Brooks or Berthoud.
>
> On Jan 6, 11:40 pm, Rene Sterental <orthie...@gmail.com> wrote:> Can anyone 
> provide how the Berthoud Touring Saddles would compare to a B17
> > saddle? I own B17 saddles but have never ridden a Berthoud one.
>
> > Thanks,
>
> > René

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