Hi everyone,

since plenty of you seem to be snowed under with time on your hands, I
thought I'd tap into the collective wisdom to reconfigure my stable.

I know that the answer to this question is n + 1, where n = current #
of bikes, and I am open to that possibility, but would prefer to keep
n = 2 (not counting the tandem).

Here are my riding needs, in order of frequency/importance (btw, don't
have a car):

1. Commuting: 5-8 round trips a week, short (10-30 minutes) frequently
wet, occasionally in the dark. Fenders a must.

2. Mixed road/dirt road rides, once a week, 3-5 hours (Jack Browns
work, but are a bit skinny for these rides). Fenders a must.

3. Starting in 3 months or so, kid hauling as well as recreational
rides with kid, in a Bobike mini seat, mounted to the stem. Kid
hauling will be infrequent and short distance (to meet mom for lunch
at her office), and the majority of recreational rides with the kid
will most likely happen on the tandem, which is also being modified
for kid hauling duty. Should have fenders, though I wouldn't ride with
the kid if it was already raining).

4. Occasionally the weekly ride is a 2-3 hour single track ride with
about 1 hour of road riding to get there and back. Would prefer no
fenders for this setup (two dirt rides ago my friend Paul got
something stuck between tire and front fender, and it wasn't pretty
(fender buckled, downtube scratched, though he didn't crash).

5. Occasional brief tours (S24Os). Any longer tours would happen on
the tandem.

6. Occasionally need a visitor's bike for people of varying heights.


Current stable:

1. 2009 56cm Sam Hillborne, usually sporting Jack Browns, 42mm
fenders, noodles, front basket, rear rack
http://www.flickr.com/photos/25150...@n08/5185320523/

2. 1990 17" Fisher Sphinx monster cross. Currently sporting 700C 35mm
Paselas 52mm fenders, porteur bars, rear rack. Relatively high bottom
bracket.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/25150...@n08/5242295929/

3. 2008 Tank (Taiwanese brand) mtn tandem, sporting 26" 35mm slicks,
fenders, rear rack. Extremely high bb, virtually no bb drop.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/25150...@n08/5267816307/

4. Other 700C tires in the stable: 42mm IRC Mythos CX Pro Slick (semi
knobby), 40mm Kenda Kwick Roller Ez Ride (smooth; coming soon).


A) I have tried mounting the kid seat on the Sam with the noodles,
moving the technomic deluxe as high as possible, but am doubtful that
the kid seat will work with either noodles or moustache bars, unless I
get a dirt drop stem (My chest gets in the way of my kid's head).
Seems like the kid hauler will have to have porteur bars.

B) I don't think I want to use porteur bars for recreational road or
off-road rides, especially with the horizontally short stem and
upright position that would be required for mounting the kid seat.

C) The Fisher is too small to take the kid seat, I think. It has a 1
1/4" threaded headset, and tall stems don't seem to be available (not
sure that they ever were). Have purchased a Nitto stem riser to use 1
1/8" threadless, but even with a very tall stem (110mm, 35 degr.
rise), the bars are still too low for the kid seat. The only cheap way
to get this bike to have a chance to work as a kid hauler is to add an
insert to the steerer tube so that it can accept a 1" dirt drop stem
or some such, or to have a custom stem made.

D) Would like my Sam to be set-up as my go fast, rather than the
Fisher.

E) Prefer to have the Fisher set-up as the trail bike (may get 50mm
tires for it eventually, which won't fit the Sam).

F) Would like to try a 650B low trail bike one of these days.

G) Would prefer a low bb bike for kid hauling, to facilitate getting a
foot down at stops.

Possible Solutions:

I. Buy a VO Polyvalent, have 4 bikes: Sam go-fast/commuter, Fisher
trail bike, VO kid hauler/commuter, tandem family van. This way I will
get to try a 650b low trail bike. But buying a bike and having it
shipped to Thailand is an expensive proposition, especially with the
threat of a 60% import duty. I have no plans for a trip to the US to
bring a bike with me, which would avoid the import duty. Probably
can't afford this option right now, and car port space is already
limited. Financial outlay: $1700 or so.

II. Buy a Polyvalent, sell the Fisher. Solves the space problem, helps
with the financial problem, but Sam would have to be the go fast and
trail bike. This would involve only occasional tire and fender
switching, so that would probably be alright. But financially this
would still be a stretch. Financial outlay: $1000 or so (assuming I
can get $500 for the Fisher, and use its seatpost and saddle for the
VO).

III. Making do with the bikes I have, I see 4 options:

a) Set up 2 cockpits for the Sam, one with noodles, one with porteur
bars. Fisher is dedicated dirt bike. Disadvantage: If usually set up
with noodles, will I really want to switch cockpits just to ride to
lunch with my son? (Especially if I have to carry him in a sling while
switching bars...) Alternatively could have the Sam set up with
porteurs by default, switching to noodles only for the weekly ride.
Financial outlay: around $60 for cable splitters.

b) Figure out a way to get a tall stem on the Fisher, turn it into kid
hauler, and have the Sam be go fast and trail bike by switching tires
and mounting/dismounting fenders. Financial outlay: around $70 for
dirt drop stem, $? for steerer conversion to 1" (should be cheap here
in Thailand if it can be done at all).

c) Putting a dirt drop stem and moustache bars on the Sam, I could
perhaps make it work as a kid hauler, and also as a trail bike. It
might even work as a go fast that way, but I could set up the Fisher
as the go fast. Financial outlay: around $70 for dirt drop stem
(already have the moustache bars). Another $50 for a powdercoat
repaint of the Fisher. If I am using it a lot for fun road rides, I
don't want to ride it with its severely chipped paint.

d) Just use the tandem as the kid hauler, regardless of whether mom is
coming along or not. Since distances will be short, riding the tandem
should be fine. Sam is commuter and go fast, Fisher is trail bike. The
only issue is recreational rides with kid but without mom, but that
won't happen too often. Main drawback: Very high bottom bracket makes
stops a bit awkward, though at least the top tube is low.

So far, III c) seems the most intriguing.

Any other ideas?

Thanks,

Gernot








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