on 12/3/10 12:35 PM, Leslie at leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote:

> Interesting timing for this discussion, as I've been mulling similar
> questions.
> 
> 
> I've got 48cm Noodles on my Ram, love 'em.
> 
> 
> But I'm planning a Bombadil build.   Originally had planned to just
> run w/ the Bullmoose.   But, after seeing photos of Woodchippers on a
> Bomba, I started thinking about offroad drops.   But, I'm not a
> hardcore offroader, mostly rails-to-trails...  was starting to think
> that Rando bars might be the way to go.
> 
> So, I hope everyone else continues to pitch in on this discussion,
> experiences, etc., so I can mull it all over....

The WTB-type Dirt Drop bar style never really won me over. I'm talking about
the designs which pretty radically flair the hooks, such as the
Woodchippers.

They've always felt too weirdly flared at the base (clearance on
singletrack) and too narrow to be useful at the top.

What I've found (for me, my riding style and the topography I encounter) is
that if I'm in the drops on off-road descents, I like my elbows in and my
butt back. Keeping my elbows in keeps my mass and momentum hinged directly
behind my hands, so if the bicycle stops suddenly my weight pushes my hands
directly into the bars.  Flared lower sections keep my elbows out, which
tends to make them pivot out if I suddenly stop, which has my mass twisting
my hands away from me, putting all the force into my thumbs - a recipe for
decoupling my hands from the bars.  Bent elbows also moves my center o'
gravity forward. 

On the road, of course, drops is drops.  For rails-to-trails, I don't know
that I'd change anything. If you physiology has your wrists or forearms
banging uncomfortably on the uppers when you are in the lowers, then the
slight flare of a rando-style bar would make some sense - just enough to
shift you out without sacrificing multiple positions.

All of which have led me to stick with the Noodles/Soba design. But I do run
them at or slightly below saddle height.  In a more upright position, I
don't mind a "flat" bar, as long as it has decent sweep - which again lets
me get my elbows slightly more tucked in.

- Jim 

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