"....and also lacks a Hand Job"

Don't forget the Toe Jamb, too!  My brazed on pump peg on the boom
tube is a disembodied foot, and the big toe is what holds the pump in
place

On Nov 11, 9:26 am, cyclotourist <cyclotour...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Jealous:  My Co-Mo barely fits a 32mm, and also lacks a Hand Job.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 9:22 AM, William <tapebu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > My Ibis barely takes a 700x37 Pasela.  The close points are in back.
> > The fork would probably take a 50.  That's why I'd love a 650B
> > tandem.
>
> > On Nov 11, 8:41 am, MichaelH <mhech...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Suit yourself, but most stokers who ride singles with open pedals will
> > > end up preferring a toe clip on a tandem.  Here's why.  When the pilot
> > > suddenly comes across broken pavement or a surprising pot hole and
> > > follows their instinct to suddenly stop pedaling and lift their butt
> > > off the seat, without warning,  the stoker will loose contact with the
> > > pedals and get whacked in the shin before she reconnects.  Now if
> > > you're perfect, or only ride on good roads then that's not a problem.
>
> > > Also I would caution people on this list to look carefully at tire
> > > clearances on 700C tandems.  Cannondale, Co-Motion, and Santana design
> > > there 700C bikes around 28mm tires.  If that's what you want, fine,
> > > but I suspect that most riders on this list will prefer tandems with
> > > 38mm or bigger tires on a tandem and that generally means 26" wheels.
> > > Also, the 26" wheels are stronger and can be safely built with 36
> > > spokes.  We run 26x1.6 Marathon Racers and love them on all surfaces,
> > > including VTs dirt roads.
>
> > > Another possible option for tandems is DaVinci; and even if you don't
> > > buy a frame from them they design a lot of really good, tandem
> > > specific parts.
>
> > > michael
>
> > > On Nov 11, 8:12 am, Seth Vidal <skvi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 7:30 AM, MichaelH <mhech...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > A nice used, medium sized, Ti Tandem popped up on the tan...@hobbes
> > > > > list this morning.  In addition to the good advice about handling, I
> > > > > would add that you will want more stand over for the pilot than you
> > > > > probably have on your single, especially if you bought it from Grant.
> > > > > On a tandem the pilot must straddle the bike with his/her legs spread
> > > > > beyond the pedals and hold the brakes, while the stoker climbs aboard
> > > > > and repositions the pedals for the pilot to put one foot on and push
> > > > > off.  Also, plan on clips or clipless pedals, since loosing contact
> > > > > with tandem pedals can be a painful experience!
>
> > > > I agree with the standover - that's true - but disagree with clipless.
> > > > We ride on sneaker pedals and vastly prefer it.
>
> > > > -sv
>
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> David
> Redlands, CA
>
> *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would
> probably benefit more from
> improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS

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