That's interesting. I rode the Marathon Extremes (discontinued by Riv I 
believe) on the Atlantis today, rode on pavement and climbed on tacky dirt, and 
they just felt great.

I know these things are nonlinear, but I just thought I'd give you some data.

-Jim W.

p.s. I ate ribs and drank beer in the middle of the ride. Maybe that was the 
key factor. Still pumped about today's ride. Beautiful day in So. Cal. Totally 
unplanned, sorry I don't have photos.


-----Original Message-----
>From: EricP <ericpl...@aol.com>

>The Supremes from time to time feel like they are
>filled with concrete.  Can't figure it out.  But the wheels just don't
>wanna roll.
>

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