I too have actual, serious friends who have carbon bikes.  They tease
me about making sure I position my Atlantis properly at traffic lights
to activate the sensor and I get back at them whenever they need help
carrying a jacket.  We're a mature group & it's all good fun.  One of
the many beauties of cycling is the variety of characters and
equipment one encounters.  They're all just people on bikes, having a
ride.

dougP

On Oct 18, 3:47 pm, Anne Paulson <anne.paul...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 10:32 AM, bfd <bfd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Whoa, what's up with the carbon bashing. Have you ever consider that
> > most carbon bikes don't have room for fenders and that is probably the
> > reason your "friends" don't ride in the rain!
>
> I don't know why the scare quotes around the word "friends." These
> people are my actual friends, not my quote-unquote friends. And
> nothing forced them to buy bikes that don't have room for fenders.
> They chose to buy those bikes, when other bikes were also available.
>
> They chose to value lightness over everything else, which gives them
> the benefit of being able to climb faster but has the disadvantage
> that they can't mount 28 mm tires and fenders. So on a bright sunny
> day, on good pavement, they have fast bikes, but on even slightly
> bumpy pavement they get a rough ride on those rock-hard 23mm tires,
> and if the roads are a bit wet, the rock-hard 23mm tires might be
> slippery.
>
> We have a lot of sunny days and a lot of smooth pavement, so riders
> who are willing to only ride in those conditions can nevertheless get
> a good bit of riding in.
>
> --
> -- Anne Paulson
>
> My hovercraft is full of eels

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