I will chime in with the shoe width reference as well.  I wear size 12
keens when riding and the grip kings felt like they barely made it
half way across my foot.  Put them on the wife bike, she is a size 7
ot 8 I think and she loves them.  if you are going wide and flat look
for some decent thin aluminum sealed bearing bmx pedas.  vintage mks
pedals have some nice patterns and colors as well.

Rob


On Oct 16, 5:31 pm, Eric Daume <ericda...@gmail.com> wrote:
> A second vote for the MKS sneakers over the GKs. I found the Grip Kings
> pretty slippery actually, and my wide feet like the sneaker pedals quite a
> bit better. They're cheaper, too.
>
> On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 7:17 PM, Johnny Alien <johnnyal...@verizon.net>wrote:
>
>
>
> > I like the MKS Sneaker pedals more than the Grip Kings.  As far as
> > platform pedals go the sneaker pedals are really really hard to beat.
>
> > On Oct 16, 5:47 pm, Rob Harrison <robha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > The biggest plus with the Frogs compared to toe clips and straps is easy
> > entry. Maybe I'm uncoordinated, but even after years of using them, I find
> > it sometimes takes me 20 yards of futzing to flip the pedals the right way
> > and get my feet into both pedals, which has its downsides riding in traffic.
> > The Frogs are basically step n' go. OTOH, with toe clips and straps I have
> > no lingering doubts, as I do with the Frogs, whether I'll somehow not be
> > able to get a foot OUT to keep myself from falling over in a panic stop.
> > Only ridden a week with the Frogs so far. Maybe I'll get used to them and
> > gain confidence in that department. The biggest downside of course with the
> > Frogs is having to wear the only pair of shoes I have with the cleats,
> > rather than whatever happens to be on my feet. Owning a pedal wrench has
> > been a revelation though--I can change pedals in ten minutes to suit the
> > ride. I'm thinkin' Grip Kings could be the pedals for commuting at least.
> > They have lots of fans, I'm interested to see what the buzz is about.
>
> > > Rob in Seattle
>
> > > On Oct 16, 2010, at 2:17 PM, Johnny Alien wrote:
>
> > > > I just put a set of Frogs on my Rambouillet.  Did a 28 mile run today
> > > > with them and I actually get along pretty well with them. I miss
> > > > moving my feet anywhere I want them but it had some benefits too.
>
> > > > On Oct 16, 4:35 pm, Rob Harrison <robha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> Experimenting with pedals on my Saluki these days. Took off the MKS
> > Touring pedals + toe clips, now running (gasp!) Speedplay Frogs. (First time
> > ever with clipless pedals--and I like 'em more than I ever thought I would!)
> > Would now like to try Grip Kings.
>
> > > >> Anyone have an extra pair?
>
> > > >> Rob in Seattle
>
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