> Sure, I like the SON and I justify it by saying, the hell with justifying it, > I can > afford it and I want it and my car is worth $800. So there. But if I > were wholly rational, I'd just buy Shimanos.
Being rational is not only about saving money, though, is it? Schmidt are made by a company that consists of a couple of engineers who design test and make their product in a small building in Germany. The people really care about bike lights and are consistently drive innovation in their niche. For instance, custom frame builders are currently getting their first delivery of the new hubs and wireless fork drop outs. Shimano hubs are designed by engineers who probably wish they could have been working at Toyota or Panasonic and made in whichever factory Shimano can get the most bang for their buck. Shimano may not be baby eaters, but there certainly are rational benefits supporting people who obviously share my standards. On Oct 7, 2:46 am, PATRICK MOORE <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote: > I don't know how much longer in miles the SON 20R will last than the > Ultegra level (so saith Sheldon) Shimanos, but as for performance, I > can't tell the difference in drag or, needless to say, in output. I've > got Shimanos on two bikes and the SON on the pretty bike. Sure, I like > the SON and I justify it by saying, the hell with justifying it, I can > afford it and I want it and my car is worth $800. So there. But if I > were wholly rational, I'd just buy Shimanos. > > I'd use the German LED lights, though -- Cyo for rationality, Edeluxe > for pretty. > > Hub via LBS: $100. Cyo: I think it's $100, but I got mine cheap > onlist. Wheel build $50 and spokes no more than $50 if you go fancy. > Total before tax or shipping: $200. I get the builder to also take > apart and lube and adjust the bearings, having heard that Shimano > dynohubs fail quickly if you don't do this -- BQ somewhere. > > So --- just $60. Hell, that's only 10 boutique beers .... or five > fifths of cheap bourbon. > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 12:38 AM, charlie <charles_v...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > Yea, I ran the numbers tonight and with high quality Sanyo batteries, > > a quality charger plus two 2 Watt lights it ended up around $140 > > so......this means I would only need $350 more for what I really want. > > I just can't settle for less, unless its way less. I just don't want > > to spend money twice. I do this often and regret it later. I > > compromise and find out later I should have purchased what I wanted. I > > nearly always end up doing so later wasting the initial money I spent > > in the first place. I can see myself using a generator hub of quality > > and riding more because I have one. Maybe some of you can explain the > > real world realizationsyou had after getting a Son hub or......did any > > of you find out that you really didn't need such a fancy setup? > > > On Oct 6, 6:40 pm, PATRICK MOORE <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I just had a Shimano DN something (disk model) or another built into > >> an existing rim for $150 including six bolt rotor adaptor. Add $100 > >> for a Cyo: $250 plus tax or plus shipping, take your choice. Not as > >> cheap as a Blaze, but not $500, either. > > >> On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 7:33 PM, charlie <charles_v...@hotmail.com> wrote: > >> > I use the inexpensive Planet bike 1 watt light and have used two of > >> > them mounted on my bar. These seem to have enough brightness for me to > >> > see fine up to about 18 mph. I'd love a Son 28 built on a A719 rim to > >> > match my back wheel but this combo with the lights is over $500. I can > >> > buy two 2 watt Plant bike lights for around $100 and get some AA > >> > rechargeable batteries and be fine I think. My 1 watt PB light is as > >> > bright as my Fenex L2d flashlight in the standard high power mode (107 > >> > lumens) so two 2 watt lights ought to be plenty. The only problem I > >> > can see is that these lights are not the best for oncoming traffic > >> > like the generator lamps are and some of the battery powered German > >> > made lamps. > > >> -- > >> Patrick Moore > >> Albuquerque, NM > >> For professional resumes, contact > >> Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > Patrick Moore > Albuquerque, NM > For professional resumes, contact > Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
