Oh, and regarding San aesthetics, a year ago any discussion about fork bend would have been utterly lost on me, but the sloping tt on the Sam almost kept me from buying one. Now I think the San Marcos' fork is a crime on such a nice bike, and the tt hardly bothers me at all. In fact, I now prefer the aesthetics of sloping tt + moderate stem extension to horizontal tt and 20+ cm of stem showing, fwiw. Though I do think that matching the angle of the tt and the stem extension is nice.
Grant, any chance you can commission nitto to make a traditional quill stem with a 6 degree rise? Oh well, didn't think so... On Oct 4, 4:24 am, Earl Grey <earlg...@gmail.com> wrote: > I too have become a big rapid rise/bar end fan due to Grant's > promotion of them. Love the idea of the switchable rear derailer. Good > luck with that. That said, there is another diff, which is that the > cable attachment bolt is on the back plate of the parallelogram > instead of the front one. I assume Grant knows this, but just in > case... > > Istarted stocking up on them a while back as I don't really like the > current X-shaped ones. And yes, they were designed to work with the > mtn brifters where you shift by pushing down on the brake levers. One > last thing: rapid rise detailers work really well with Campy Ergo > brifters, which don't have the silly one gear at a time limitation > (but you gotta use 10 sp campy with 8 speed shimano, or 10 sp with 9 > sp and route the rear del cable the wrong way around the bolt. > > On Oct 3, 8:19 pm, newenglandbike <matthiasbe...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > I have an RR derailleur on my bombadil, a high-normal derailleur on my > > trek, and a suntour cyclone equipped centurion with the 'backward' > > front derailleur. I switch between bikes all the time, and after > > the first couple of shifts, you don't really have to think about it > > anymore. > > > I think the main benefit of RR derailleur that makes me want to stock > > up on them as well is that, when using them with friction shifters, on > > the rare occasion that you slip out of gear (which only ever happens > > when you're going up hill for some reason) you end up in a lower > > gear. This is WAY better than 'standard' rear d's where you end up > > thrown into an even harder gear in the middle of a climb. > > > On Oct 3, 7:00 am, Steve Palincsar <palin...@his.com> wrote: > > > > On Sat, 2010-10-02 at 23:56 -0600, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > > > > > On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 9:55 PM, Mike <mjawn...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Oct 2, 8:26 pm, Thomas Lynn Skean > > > > <thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net> > > > > wrote: > > > > > All I can say is I'm stocking up on RR rear derailers. > > > > Nothing beats > > > > > 'em with bar-end shifters. > > > > > Vas ist "RR" derailleurs? If that means (somehow) "reverse pull" and > > > > someone wants to trade an honest American-type normal pull for a > > > > poncey (lovely word!) LX r pull one, let's tawk. > > > > I think RR stands for "Rapid Rise," also known as "ass backwards," or > > > "low normal": unhook the cable, and the derailleur auto-shifts to the > > > lowest gear/largest sprocket. > > > > I don't follow this sort of thing closely, but in a recent thread on > > > 2011 XTR someone made the comment that "Rapid Rise is now dead". > > > > > I don't like them atall. > > > > I've been through this once before, with SunTour backwards-acting front > > > derailleurs. Sooner or later, no matter how much you love the gear (and > > > I loved the Compe V front derailleur, and hung onto them many years > > > after they went out of production) you have to switch back, and the > > > switch is painful. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
