Hi James! :-)

On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 3:42 PM, meinertj <meine...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey Adam,
>
> I've never worked with the Silvers or the Pauls, but I work on a lot
> of older 80's road bikes and often encounter squishy brakes.  Are the
> levers returning to their position because if not it may be a cable
> issue, but it doesn't sound like it.  Are your wheels out of true?
> because if so that could keep you from getting the brake pads as close
> as necessary...
>
> It would be a good idea to get the yokes up as high as you can, but
> maybe there is still a bit of space between your brake pads and the
> rim, if that's then case then...
>
> what I would try is (and this is easier with 2 people) setting your
> yokes all the way down, loosening the bolt that holds your brake cable
> to your Silvers, squeezing the brakes together onto your rims with one
> hand, and pulling the cable as far as you can with your other hand
> (easier with a pair of pliers) and then if you can while still pulling
> the cable retighten the the bolt to your cable... if your wheel can
> still spin after that, then tighten the yokes until your brakes start
> rubbing on the rims and then loosen just a bit.  A travel agent may do
> the trick also, but might be unnecessary.
>
> Hope this helps, it may be just what I do on the old bikes but with
> your better equipment, the problem may be as you said with the
> flexing.  Good luck!
>
> james
>
> (ps. this is my first post, so if it gets past the admins: hello rbw
> owners, i'm james, i live in st. louis, i work on old bikes a lot and
> ride a fuji touring series and i like reading and following this
> group!)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Adam Kimball <adamfkimb...@gmail.com>
> >Sent: Sep 13, 2010 2:21 PM
> >To: RBW Owners Bunch <rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com>
> >Subject: [RBW] Super-spongy brakes on my AHH - any help?
>
> >Wow, I'm not having much luck in the brake department with my new
> >ride.  I set up my Hilsen with Silver brakes and found that they
> >simply wouldn't stop me - I could have both levers to the tape and
> >still roll.  So, I changed to Paul Racer's on the advice of my LBS and
> >found that the situation really isn't much better.  Here is where my
> >thinking is at:
>
> >* I'm seeing a lot of flex in the brakes themselves and at the cable
> >hangers.  The rear brake is worse than the front (as is usually the
> >case) but I suspect the inline barrel adjuster and the rear cable
> >hanger (light-weight aluminum one that hangs of the seat-post bolt) is
> >flexing too much.
>
> >* I've brought the yokes up pretty high - I can get them higher, but
> >not much.  So, I'm not certain this is the problem.
>
> >* Brake-pads are the standard black Kool-Stops and I would have to
> >assume they are not the problem
>
> >* My Dura-Ace brake levers are incredibly squishy.  This is one piece
> >of the equation that is common to both setups (Silvers & Racers).  The
> >Racer brakes are indeed short-pull so those road levers should be fine
> >- but I've suspected them before.
>
> >Another mechanic took a look at the brakes and road the bike today.
> >He agreed that the brakes are massively under performing.  He thought
> >that a "travel agent" might help to pull more cable.  He also wanted
> >to re-cable since I cut the rear cable a little short.  He wanted me
> >to find out if Paul makes a stiffener that attaches to the calipers.
>
> >Does anyone have any other ideas for me?  I don't have another AHH to
> >ride, so it is hard for me to know just how bad my brakes are.  Keven
> >at Rivendell didn't think the Racer's are much better than the Silvers
> >for braking (and he has a pair on his Hilsen) and so he wondered what
> >the other problem might be.
>
> >Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> >Thanks,
> >Adam
>
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