can we say Grant is a marketing expert?  And he creates fine bikes and
he is not afraid to throw the noodles against the wall and see what
sticks?  650B and double top tubes fit in there somewhere.  To me the
single sloping top tube, lugged Sam is the cat's pajamas...whatever
that means.

Richard Schwinn has been selling the lugged sloping top tube Adventure
Cycle at Waterford for many years.  It costs a big bundle with the
Waterford name on it.  I wanted one forever.  Then came the Sam.  I
went for tigged Gunnar Sport with custom threaded Waterford fork.
That fits my needs perfectly.  But the orange Sam is about as good as
it gets.


On Sep 1, 11:04 am, "Bryan @ Renaissance Bicycles"
<renaissancebicyc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In the Shop we happen to have two 56cm Hillbornes.  One is the
> Taiwanese made Maxway, the other is the Waterford version from WI.
>
> Of course, we couldn't help but take 
> photos:http://www.renaissancebicycles.com/gallery/?album=7&gallery=66
>
> Obviously, the double toptuber is the Waterford version.  It also
> includes braze-ons for cantilever brakes, and a rear bridge for the
> cable stop.  The fork crowns are different.
>
> Because I know people will ask ... the weight difference between the
> frames is 8 ounces.  For perspective, that is about the difference
> between a full water bottle and one that is 3/4 full.
>
> Both bikes are in our "build queue"; we'll post pictures when they are
> complete.
>
> Now, let the debate begin ...
>
> Bryan

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