The Single TT one (Maxway?) has no BB cable guide installed!! Send it back! The Double TT one has a seatstay bridge that is not threaded underneath for a fender!! Send it back!
On Sep 1, 12:14 pm, Bill Connell <bconn...@gmail.com> wrote: > I also thought that someone else (not Maxway) was doing the forks, but > can't remember who. Given that the lugs appear identical otherwise, > i'm surprised in the differences in the forks, especially that the > canti version seems to have narrower tapered legs. The fork bend looks > the same on both, which is nice (i'm a fan of Riv's nice forks). > Unless it's a trick of the light, the orange on the Waterford version > looks a bit deeper. I agree, both are nice frames. > > > > On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 2:03 PM, Bruce <fullylug...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > Did I read somewhere that the Maxway frame uses a Toyo built fork? Toyo did > > a fine job on prior forks, so one wonders why the one pictured by Bryan > > seems "stockier." > > > To be honest, both bikes look great to me. I like the paint on the Maxway a > > bit better, but agree that the Waterford crown is nicer. > > > ________________________________ > > From: William <tapebu...@gmail.com> > > To: RBW Owners Bunch <rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> > > Sent: Wed, September 1, 2010 1:55:35 PM > > Subject: [RBW] Re: 1 Toptube or 2 -- Comparing the Two Versions of the > > Hillborne > > > I'll vote (kind of). I'm surprised at how close the weights are. I > > think the double TT looks cool, and I'd find useful. On BART I have > > to grab hard on the seat tube to portage the bike up stairs, because > > I'd get a handful of frame pump if I grabbed the TT. A second TT > > would be a portage handle for me. I cannot think of another solution > > to that for under 8 ounces. Frame strength and stiffness-wise, I > > think the second TT is unnecessary. But, pretty lugs and a gorgeous > > headbadge aren't necessary either. I personally prefer cantilevers > > for a touring setup and sidepulls for a brevet/roadie setup. I > > wouldn't call either one 'better'. > > > The thing I feel strongly about is the fork. I really don't like the > > fork on the single TT bike. I vastly prefer the curly crown, the > > curveback wings and especially the narrow tapered fork blades. The > > blades on the single TT one look clumsy and chubby. Ick. My 56cm > > Hillborne has a fork like the double TT version. > > > Bottom line, if someone offered me a free trade of my single TT > > hillborne for a double TT hillborne, I'd probably take it. I would > > not pay $250 for the upgrade. Mine is perfectly fine. If I had to > > buy one of those two framesets from RenBikes today, I would absolutely > > pick the double TT one, and I would pay the $250 extra because A/ the > > fork is way nicer looking B/ I personally prefer cantilevers for my > > Hillborne setup and C/ I like the double TT. > > > On Sep 1, 11:04 am, "Bryan @ Renaissance Bicycles" > > <renaissancebicyc...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> In the Shop we happen to have two 56cm Hillbornes. One is the > >> Taiwanese made Maxway, the other is the Waterford version from WI. > > >> Of course, we couldn't help but take > >> photos:http://www.renaissancebicycles.com/gallery/?album=7&gallery=66 > > >> Obviously, the double toptuber is the Waterford version. It also > >> includes braze-ons for cantilever brakes, and a rear bridge for the > >> cable stop. The fork crowns are different. > > >> Because I know people will ask ... the weight difference between the > >> frames is 8 ounces. For perspective, that is about the difference > >> between a full water bottle and one that is 3/4 full. > > >> Both bikes are in our "build queue"; we'll post pictures when they are > >> complete. > > >> Now, let the debate begin ... > > >> Bryan > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > Bill Connell > St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
