I'll vote (kind of).  I'm surprised at how close the weights are.  I
think the double TT looks cool, and I'd find useful.  On BART I have
to grab hard on the seat tube to portage the bike up stairs, because
I'd get a handful of frame pump if I grabbed the TT.  A second TT
would be a portage handle for me.  I cannot think of another solution
to that for under 8 ounces.  Frame strength and stiffness-wise, I
think the second TT is unnecessary.  But, pretty lugs and a gorgeous
headbadge aren't necessary either.  I personally prefer cantilevers
for a touring setup and sidepulls for a brevet/roadie setup.  I
wouldn't call either one 'better'.

The thing I feel strongly about is the fork.  I really don't like the
fork on the single TT bike.  I vastly prefer the curly crown, the
curveback wings and especially the narrow tapered fork blades.  The
blades on the single TT one look clumsy and chubby.  Ick.  My 56cm
Hillborne has a fork like the double TT version.

Bottom line, if someone offered me a free trade of my single TT
hillborne for a double TT hillborne, I'd probably take it.  I would
not pay $250 for the upgrade.  Mine is perfectly fine.  If I had to
buy one of those two framesets from RenBikes today, I would absolutely
pick the double TT one, and I would pay the $250 extra because A/ the
fork is way nicer looking B/ I personally prefer cantilevers for my
Hillborne setup and C/ I like the double TT.

On Sep 1, 11:04 am, "Bryan @ Renaissance Bicycles"
<renaissancebicyc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In the Shop we happen to have two 56cm Hillbornes.  One is the
> Taiwanese made Maxway, the other is the Waterford version from WI.
>
> Of course, we couldn't help but take 
> photos:http://www.renaissancebicycles.com/gallery/?album=7&gallery=66
>
> Obviously, the double toptuber is the Waterford version.  It also
> includes braze-ons for cantilever brakes, and a rear bridge for the
> cable stop.  The fork crowns are different.
>
> Because I know people will ask ... the weight difference between the
> frames is 8 ounces.  For perspective, that is about the difference
> between a full water bottle and one that is 3/4 full.
>
> Both bikes are in our "build queue"; we'll post pictures when they are
> complete.
>
> Now, let the debate begin ...
>
> Bryan

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