On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 2:13 PM, Seth Vidal <skvi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Jim,
>  I have a burley tandem with a threadless headset/stem and having to
> move it around to get the bars up was a giant pain in the ass.
>
> I had a bianchi castro valley, same thing, In general, I've found that
> since getting a rivendell that headset adjustment and maintenance,
> including raising and lowering the bars, give me much less heartburn.
>
> I'm not pulling the idea of not like threadless from a place of zero
> experience with them. I'm coming from my own personal experience and
> watching  what happens with normal use of a bike for me.
>
Oh and let me speak from the other direction, too.

I'd be fine with threadless headsets if I could put a quill stem in
them and have the whole kit look elegant and finished.

I've seen what Sheldon Brown did, by putting a clamp around the
steerer tube then shimming a quill stem into it and that while
imaginative did not look finished or complete.

A headset could be designed such that the steerer is threadless and
9/8' and tightened/finished with a allen-wrench tightened top cap/lock
nut. And STILL be possible to fit a quill stem into the whole kit for
adjustment AND have it look elegant in the process.;

That way mechanics get their wish of being able to work on threadless
headsets/steerers and users like me can still adjust the bars up and
down w/o having to mess with the whole headset in the process.

I'll have to think on it a bit but it sure seems like you would only
really need a 'top cap/shim piece that covers the top 40mm of steerer
and then either an attached or detached shim to make it all fit
together nicely with standard 1" quill stems.

So - take what sheldon did, and make it a finished process.

I wonder if/how much not having a star nut involved weakens or
compromises the system....

-sv

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