I like threadless. They're easy to set up (the whole point behind them). Especially the open faced stems. They are kinda' useless with a short/cut steerer though. The big problem is the ever-changing size standard. Soon there will be a new "beefy/stronger/stiffer/lighter" size that Trek/Specialized/Giant comes out with for the steerer (1-1/2, 2", 2-1/2") and then all the 1-1/8 stems will go the way of the 1" standard. Try getting 1" threadless stem BTW. It's already happening with that stupid 31.8mm clamp size. The neat new bars are that size as shown by the new bars Mike likes. Staying with 1" quills, you know that the size is already outdated by two decades.
On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 6:34 AM, Ray Shine <r.sh...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > Yes, I agree with Jim. If versatillity is a hallmark of the Riv brand, > then threadless is quite an appropriate design consideration, or at least an > option. > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery <thill....@gmail.com> > *To:* RBW Owners Bunch <rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> > *Sent:* Sun, August 29, 2010 12:41:48 AM > *Subject:* [RBW] Re: WTB: midge, junebug, woodchipper, etc > > Seth makes a good point, in that many Riv customers and aspiring Riv > customers prefer the classic quill aesthetic, and maybe Grant has > decided that filling this niche is an important part of the RBW > business model. But threadless steerers have been mainstream long > enough now, that even retro-grouches can appreciate that it is a > proven design. I'm not going to get into my long list of reasons to > favor 9/8" threadless, but in the context of this discussion, one key > point has surfaced: there are a lot of interesting handlebars that > can't be used with available quill stems. If a bar has a 31.8 clamp > area, and many newer bars are only available in 31.8, there is no > quill stem that will accommodate it. If the bar is not a single > continuous bend - think h-bar - then a removable face plate is needed, > again, not generally available in a quill stem. If versatility is a > hallmark of the RBW brand, then the quill stem runs counter to that > ideal, given the current huge variety of threadless stems and > handlebars that cannot be used on Rivendell frames without some kind > of kludgy adapter. > > Anyway, I just went for my first ride of any distance with Woodchipper > bars on my Post-Riv Curt Goodrich A/R. I ran the Shimano bar-end > shifters up top on thumbie mounts (one Paul, one IRD, in the interest > of science). I like the bar quite a bit, but may screw around with the > angle a little (very little). And, since I was changing things around, > I replaced the Paul Cantis with Tektro v-brakes. I once was of the > opinion that the Paul cantis had great stopping power, and they do, > for cantis, but a couple times this evening, I was pleasantly > surprised by the massive increase in braking power from the v-brakes. > This swap was inspired by a LHT I just set up for my wife a couple > months ago. With cantis, she lacked the hand strength to bring the > bike to a quick stop. Switching to cheapie Tektro v-brakes (and > appropriate levers), her modest hand strength was suddenly more than > adequate for effective stopping. The improvement was so drastic, that > I decided to try it on one of my own bikes. I don't know why I waited > so long, but I'm now of the opinion that my cantilever days are behind > me. Even the cheap v-brakes are comparatively amazing. Just one more > bike with cantis in my personal fleet, and that will be changing > sooner than later. > > On Aug 28, 8:47 pm, Seth Vidal <skvi...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 9:46 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery > > > > <thill....@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Time for Riv to go threadless! > > > > Let's not have that happen. I really don't care for threadless very much. > > > > -sv > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+ > unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
