In my case, Riv installed the hs, and it is fine; and again, saddle setback
is the First Principle and immutable; can't move it for something as minor
as handling. My other Rivs are the epitome of butt-back, light on the front
absolutely error free handling; the Sam Hill feels as if it were designed by
someone else.

On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 5:42 PM, Michael_S <mikeybi...@rocketmail.com>wrote:

>
> Have you checked the headset to make sure its adjusted correctly?
> Perhaps it was not seated properly when installed?
>
> The Fisher bikes are long top tube bikes. On my mountain bike I run a
> 600mm top tube with a 32mm setback seatpost/105mm stem and it fits
> great.
>
> Have you tried sliding the seat forward a cm or so?
>
>
> Good Luck..
>
> ~Mike~
>
> On Aug 10, 3:27 pm, neurodrum <neurod...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > oh - whups that's actually a long TT at 622.. not sure why i thought
> > it was short.
> > so maybe that's part of it.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Well, my stats (phb 84.5, 5'11, short limbs, all torso) have always
> made bike fittings hard.  with "typical" road bikes i've been way too far
> forward out over the front wheel, and it unweights the rear wheel too much,
> causes me to endo easily, etc.  this isn't an issue on most mountain bikes.
>  it's not much of an issue with the SH, either, with the B-17 back on a
> set-back seatpost.   though the pedals still feel like they are wee bit too
> far "back".  i've tweaked the height of the Bullmoose bars and seat to be a
> pretty-good-feel set up, and the bike DOES track extremely well 90% of the
> time - i just have to pay more attention to the front end when climbing or
> turning semi-sharply on flats, or i find the bike might add in some turn i
> wasn't expecting.
> >
> > > in comparison, all the riding i've done in the past couple years that
> hasn't been on this Sam has been on a 19" Fisher Cobia 29er:
> http://fisherbikes.com/bike/archivemodel/398
> >
> > > that frame geometry completely eliminates any fit issue for me, even
> though it's got a short effective top tube (622). i did add a
> height-adjustable stem to get me a bit more upright/take pressure off my
> hands.  but it's got better transfer of power than my Sam, and feels much
> faster to accelerate (fork locked) even with 2.5" knobbies, compared to the
> Sam with 40mm Shwalbe Mara Sups.  i dont know enough about geometry to
> compare the SH 56cm to the Cobia 19".. there are obviously a lot of
> differences - but some dimension is affecting both fit and power transfer
> pretty significantly (with a similar drivetrain, crank length,
> cassette,etc).
> >
> > > best,
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