In my case, Riv installed the hs, and it is fine; and again, saddle setback is the First Principle and immutable; can't move it for something as minor as handling. My other Rivs are the epitome of butt-back, light on the front absolutely error free handling; the Sam Hill feels as if it were designed by someone else.
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 5:42 PM, Michael_S <mikeybi...@rocketmail.com>wrote: > > Have you checked the headset to make sure its adjusted correctly? > Perhaps it was not seated properly when installed? > > The Fisher bikes are long top tube bikes. On my mountain bike I run a > 600mm top tube with a 32mm setback seatpost/105mm stem and it fits > great. > > Have you tried sliding the seat forward a cm or so? > > > Good Luck.. > > ~Mike~ > > On Aug 10, 3:27 pm, neurodrum <neurod...@gmail.com> wrote: > > oh - whups that's actually a long TT at 622.. not sure why i thought > > it was short. > > so maybe that's part of it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, my stats (phb 84.5, 5'11, short limbs, all torso) have always > made bike fittings hard. with "typical" road bikes i've been way too far > forward out over the front wheel, and it unweights the rear wheel too much, > causes me to endo easily, etc. this isn't an issue on most mountain bikes. > it's not much of an issue with the SH, either, with the B-17 back on a > set-back seatpost. though the pedals still feel like they are wee bit too > far "back". i've tweaked the height of the Bullmoose bars and seat to be a > pretty-good-feel set up, and the bike DOES track extremely well 90% of the > time - i just have to pay more attention to the front end when climbing or > turning semi-sharply on flats, or i find the bike might add in some turn i > wasn't expecting. > > > > > in comparison, all the riding i've done in the past couple years that > hasn't been on this Sam has been on a 19" Fisher Cobia 29er: > http://fisherbikes.com/bike/archivemodel/398 > > > > > that frame geometry completely eliminates any fit issue for me, even > though it's got a short effective top tube (622). i did add a > height-adjustable stem to get me a bit more upright/take pressure off my > hands. but it's got better transfer of power than my Sam, and feels much > faster to accelerate (fork locked) even with 2.5" knobbies, compared to the > Sam with 40mm Shwalbe Mara Sups. i dont know enough about geometry to > compare the SH 56cm to the Cobia 19".. there are obviously a lot of > differences - but some dimension is affecting both fit and power transfer > pretty significantly (with a similar drivetrain, crank length, > cassette,etc). > > > > > best, > > > andrew- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.