In my case, the saddle position is the very first variable to be determined and set, and everything else is measured off of that. I like a distance from saddle nose (Flites and Turbos) of 3 to 3.5 inches behind bb center. This means that, with the 71* st, the saddle is more or less centered, perhaps slightly reward, on the rails, compared to slammed all the way back with a rubber mallet on high setback seatposts on my 73* Riv customs.
Next is bar position: I want my bars at a certain reach (~ 27" from saddle nose to Shimano hood tips) and I want my back to have a certain angle; this in turn dictates stem length and bar height. As to the stem, I replaced the stock 10 cm for a 9, and really ought to have an 8, since the 59 cm top tube is fully 2 cm longer than my customs' tho' mitigated by the slacker seat tube angle.For both comfort and to compensate for the reach, I have the bar about level or very slightly higher than saddle compared to 4-5 cm lower on my other Rivs. I am guessing that all of this results in a weight distribution that is too far rearward for optimum handling on this frame. What do others think? On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 7:50 AM, Bill Connell <bconn...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 10:49 PM, andrew hill <neurod...@gmail.com> wrote: > > it's a factor for me too - 84.5 pbh and 5'11 for me. > > > > not totally sure how to compensate.. i end up pushing the seat way back > and putting the bars up high .. but i think that unweights the front end a > bit too much, and contributes to wandering handling on my Sam Hillborne. > > > > -andrew > > > > On Aug 9, 2010, at 8:01 PM, kps wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> On Aug 9, 9:35 pm, cyclotourist <cyclotour...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> Every woman I know has had a tremendously hard time fitting frames > (whatever > >>> the maker) due to "reach." > >> > >> it's definitely a factor for me. i'm 5'8-1/2" or so, with a pbh of > >> 84.45 > > > This note on the frame drawing thread struck me, as both Andrew and > Patrick Moore have said the same thing. I'm surprised, actually, that > even on the slacker (even by Riv standards) Hillbourne seat tube you > still feel the need to push the saddle so far back, though that would > certainly explain the feeling that the front-end is too light. Seat > positioning is a highly individual thing, but it seems like in these > cases it's more a way to compensate for a short-feeling TT. Forgive me > if i've missed something in earlier posts, but have you both tried > longer stems? How does your Hillbourne position compare to other bikes > (esp. setback from BB and reach)? > > -- > Bill Connell > St. Paul, MN > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
