Step 4 was seat tube angle: http://www.rivbike.com/assets/payloads/336/original_n4_seat_tube_angle.pdf
On Aug 2, 5:37 pm, Johnny Alien <johnnyal...@verizon.net> wrote: > Did I miss step 4 somewhere? I had the PDF with step 3 and then the > next one was step 5. Was that just an error? > > On Aug 2, 1:44 pm, Pondero <cj.spin...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Excellent! Now scan it and show the rest of us. It's critique time. > > > Seriously, your approach sounds exactly like what I would do, and I'd > > love to see it. > > > On Aug 2, 12:35 pm, William <tapebu...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > I went ahead and worked ahead. Grant had us up to seat tube angle. I > > > did chainstay next, and then seat tube length, which allowed me to > > > connect the dots for my seatstays. Then I marked my saddle height and > > > drew a level line from the saddle to the front end. I knew I wanted > > > to be able to get the bars and saddle level with a Nitto Pearl stem. > > > I ended up with a slightly sloping top tube (more slope than a Hilsen, > > > less than a Bomba/Hillborne) and still had my standover at a > > > comfortable level. Then I dropped the headtube angle to the ground > > > and pulled back the trail, which positioned my front hub and > > > established fork rake. I went ahead with the compass and spun the > > > wheels in, and from that marked where I want the brake bridges. I > > > kind of guessed where the downtube meets the headtube. But the thing > > > is drawn. It's basically a slightly modified 58cm 650B Hilsen/ > > > Saluki. > > > > On Jul 28, 10:00 am, William <tapebu...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > I think Laney College here in Oakland did aframebuilding class, as > > > > well as The Crucible, which is a vocational arts school with every > > > > kind of heat based trade (glass, welding, blacksmithing, etc). Maybe > > > > I should look into that. > > > > > On Jul 27, 9:08 pm, Bill Gibson <bill.bgib...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > I took a welding class (Welding for Artists, or something like that) > > > > > at the local community college a few years ago and got to try > > > > > everything and developed instant respect for the simplest welds in my > > > > > life. I got to try both gas and electric and gas brazing and plasma > > > > > cutting, and it's on my list. But teaching school science starting > > > > > last week, 6 weeks too soon for me -maybe it's time to retire and ride > > > > > and make bikes and whittle spoons and kuksas...need to gather school > > > > > supplies... > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 8:26 PM, Steve <sring...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > I did this: signed up for a framebuilding class, measured my > > > > > > youngest > > > > > > son who needed a good road bike, and built a virtual clone of my > > > > > > Rambouillet. The only change I made > > > > > > was to increase the fender clearance slightly under the headtube and > > > > > > the seat stay bridge since my Ram frankly runs at the minimum usable > > > > > > clearance with 28mm tires. The lugged bike turned > > > > > > out to be spectacular: it handles, if you can believe this, > > > > > > slightly > > > > > > better than the Ram (although I suspect that my handling test was > > > > > > biased due to less weight in the front bag). No matter; he loves > > > > > > the > > > > > > bike. I spent about twelve Sundays building this and loved every > > > > > > minute of it. If you can spare the time and cash, do it. > > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > Ames, IA > > > > > > > On Jul 27, 1:25 pm, William <tapebu...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > >> Grant is apparently going to teach us how todrawa bikeframein his > > > > > >> little step by step way. I'm going to follow along. I want a > > > > > >> custom > > > > > >>framethat somewhat resembles a 58cm 650B A. Homer Hilsen. The > > > > > >> critical differences will be that I want it 130mm spaced and want > > > > > >> it > > > > > >> to be a lighter frameset. I don't know if I'll ever get this > > > > > >> frameset > > > > > >> made, or whether it will be a Rivendell or an Ebisu or a Davidson > > > > > >> or > > > > > >> something else. But I'm looking forward to drawing it. I've done > > > > > >> a > > > > > >> fair amount of drafting table work in Engineering school, but never > > > > > >> went ahead and drew a bike. Looking forward to it. > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > > > > Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > > > > > To post to this group, send email to > > > > > > rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > > > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > > > > > For more options, visit this group > > > > > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > > > > -- > > > > > Bill Gibson > > > > > Tempe, Arizona, USA > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
