Trump tariffs deemed illegal, again - the saga continues On Monday, May 4, 2026 at 9:50:28 AM UTC-5 Ron Mc wrote:
> [image: capture.JPG] > > If you keep up with exchange rates, all of Japan is essentially 30% off. > Japan manipulates their currency against the dollar, because they know a > strong dollar increases their export market. > > I will never have a problem with taxing discretionary spending as a means > to control budget deficit and national debt. > 40% of all the money in history was created - imagined - in the past 6 > years, which is the real madness - a debt we assumed and didn't ask for. > > On Monday, May 4, 2026 at 8:24:14 AM UTC-5 Ron Mc wrote: > >> FWIW, I received a $46 reimbursement check from UPS for CN23 over-charge >> that broker ZenMarket collected from me on a fishing reel. >> >> [image: G3nraZ5.jpg] >> >> On Monday, May 4, 2026 at 7:02:37 AM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote: >> >>> A bit plus for DHL is that they send you a bill for the fees when it >>> reached customs. If its more than you expect you can refuse and they will >>> send it back. WIth a situation like Fedex you have already accepted the >>> delivery when you get hit with the fees so no options if its unexpectedly >>> high. I would say anyone getting a shipment from Japan and paying nothing >>> additional is a rare thing. I would not go in expecting it to slip through. >>> Since the president starting this weird tariff war I have not had one thing >>> of any value come where I didn't pay a fee. Not saying it doesn't happen >>> but its rare and probably because someone messed up somewhere. There is no >>> way to bypass it from what I have seen. >>> >>> On Monday, May 4, 2026 at 7:50:17 AM UTC-4 Ron Mc wrote: >>> >>>> Been buying a lot from Japan for a long time - since before google >>>> translate worked, and you needed a Japanese onshore shipping broker with >>>> an >>>> offshore bank account so the vendor could receive payment - both bike >>>> parts, and a lot of fishing tackle. >>>> [image: RGUNrYW.jpg] [image: wb2vgWy.jpg] >>>> Haven't slowed down much, say about 21%, since tariffs were enacted. >>>> Nothing evil is going on, rather communication is still difficult >>>> between vendors and shippers in Japan and the same shipping company within >>>> US. >>>> Customs Form CN23 (aluminum derivatives) is the hitch. It's not in >>>> Japanese nature to dart-board this form. The shippers don't really care, >>>> as long as they have a document in their file. >>>> The Japanese vendors who dart-board the form and pay duty up front >>>> usually work the best. >>>> Blue Lug has given up on filling out the form, and send the ball to US >>>> FedEx, which is why FedEx charge includes both import duty and brokerage >>>> fee. >>>> FedEx clerks in Memphis are trying to get more information from >>>> Japanese clerks, and still face the language barrier. >>>> DHL is also the best at this, since they've been dealing with VAT from >>>> every EU country for decades. >>>> On Monday, May 4, 2026 at 12:44:01 AM UTC-5 [email protected] wrote: >>>> >>>>> Just made a purchase for $311 and received an invoice for $77 after >>>>> the delivery was made. The package was held in Memphis for over a week, >>>>> then released. Days later I received messages and a paper invoice to >>>>> FedEx >>>>> for the $77 import fee. >>>>> >>>>> Buyer beware! I love BL. But aside from the stem caddy, everything >>>>> else could have been purchased locally/nationally. >>>>> >>>>> On Wednesday, April 29, 2026 at 11:11:02 AM UTC-7 Brent Eastman wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> i ordered from blue lug last week. we shall see what fedex sends >>>>>> along. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Apr 29, 2026, at 10:38 AM, Ron Mc <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Blue Lug gives a warning that you're responsible for import duty >>>>>> before you submit your order. >>>>>> >>>>>> My recent order included Nitto Erlen saddle rack and purple Brooks >>>>>> leather barwrap - only vendor with stock of either. >>>>>> 3-day FedEx delivery, FedEx sent a 15% invoice for import duty >>>>>> through email. >>>>>> >>>>>> <01P4180002.JPG> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Ostrich S-2 bag was ebay purchase, slow-boat post - last thing to >>>>>> arrive, and the last thing I needed. >>>>>> 15% duty added to ebay purchase. >>>>>> >>>>>> <00P4230008.JPG> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wednesday, April 29, 2026 at 11:29:47 AM UTC-5 Dave White wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Does anyone know how the recent court decision might affect tariffs >>>>>>> on goods received from Japan? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Monday, December 29, 2025 at 3:03:41 PM UTC-8 [email protected] >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have given up trying to anticipate what/how the fees will work, I >>>>>>>> just expect to pay the extra tax nowadays =[. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My experience has been, when there is a Import duty, its always >>>>>>>> been paid to the shipper (USPS/Fedex/DHL/etc). USPS for example will >>>>>>>> require the payment before they drop off, DHL claims they won't drop >>>>>>>> off >>>>>>>> until payment is sent, and Fedex will invoice you after the fact. So >>>>>>>> far >>>>>>>> most everything this year has had some kind of Tariff I never had to >>>>>>>> pay >>>>>>>> for prior. On the flip side, I kind of doubt the shippers have setup a >>>>>>>> mechanism to deal with unpaid invoices. Likely their strategy will be >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> sell the debt to a collections agency or something. >>>>>>>> On Monday, December 29, 2025 at 12:30:33 PM UTC-8 Steven Seelig >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> As of today, FedEx doesn't know what FedEx is doing. The first >>>>>>>>> package came from the UK and I got the bill and did not pay. A >>>>>>>>> second >>>>>>>>> package came from a German vendor and I got no bill. A third package >>>>>>>>> came >>>>>>>>> from the UK and I got the bill and did not pay. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I am of the belief that their internal protocols are not strong >>>>>>>>> enough to deal with these issues on packages that used to be under >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> tariff value, which I think was $600 pre-Trump. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The biggest question is whether any interest would be imposed if >>>>>>>>> they ever catch up to me and then refuse to deliver anything to me >>>>>>>>> ever >>>>>>>>> because I am on the tariff-averse list of scofflaws. I'm a gambler >>>>>>>>> on this >>>>>>>>> one. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Monday, December 29, 2025 at 1:24:03 PM UTC-5 >>>>>>>>> [email protected] wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> My only fear of not paying FedEx or UPS is if they refuse to >>>>>>>>>> deliver in the future due to nonpayment. I've been ordering from >>>>>>>>>> Japan and >>>>>>>>>> Europe a lot, so don't necessarily want to risk it. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, December 24, 2025 at 10:35:39 AM UTC-6 Steven >>>>>>>>>> Seelig wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I have ordered bikey items from the UK that were quickly >>>>>>>>>>> delivered to me and later and got the bill from FedEx. My position >>>>>>>>>>> is that >>>>>>>>>>> the tariffs are illegal and that FedEx ultimately will be able to >>>>>>>>>>> recoup >>>>>>>>>>> that cost, assuming the Supreme Court decision comes out as I >>>>>>>>>>> expect. At >>>>>>>>>>> that point, FedEx will file for a refund and then, if I paid them, >>>>>>>>>>> I'd have >>>>>>>>>>> to chase them down for a refund. So I am standing pat and will >>>>>>>>>>> wait and >>>>>>>>>>> see how this plays out. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> FedEx really could have dealt with this issue by not delivering >>>>>>>>>>> the items to me until In paid them. Now, their letter makes it >>>>>>>>>>> seem like I >>>>>>>>>>> am at fault for that not happening. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Others may differ on this, but frankly I see no moral obligation >>>>>>>>>>> to pay something that is blatantly illegal. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, December 23, 2025 at 3:47:46 PM UTC-5 >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> FedEx will send the Trump tax (aka tariffs) bill separately in >>>>>>>>>>>> postal mail. It may take up to 2 weeks to arrive. At least that’s >>>>>>>>>>>> how FedEx >>>>>>>>>>>> charged me after I received my Blue Lug order in Oct. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, December 23, 2025 at 2:29:49 AM UTC-5 kw wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I have now received two separate orders in mid to late >>>>>>>>>>>>> December from Blue Lug containing shifters, cable/housing, saddle >>>>>>>>>>>>> and had >>>>>>>>>>>>> zero extra charges. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, October 30, 2025 at 6:55:10 PM UTC-4 >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I bought a Homer frame from BlueLug in July and paid 16% >>>>>>>>>>>>>> tariff at that time. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pat >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 30, 2025, at 8:36 AM, Drew Fitchette < >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> In my trying to get answers on tariffs from Canada vs. Japan >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in my search for a Homer frame, Julian from C&L broke it down >>>>>>>>>>>>>> like this: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Hi Drew! >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> We'll gladly ship to the USA, our flat rate for frames is >>>>>>>>>>>>>> $250. That said, due to the reciprocal tariffs put in place by >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the US >>>>>>>>>>>>>> government as of August 7th, we’ll need to collect duty and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> brokerage to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> remit to CBP on your behalf before shipping. Here’s the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> breakdown, all >>>>>>>>>>>>>> prices in $CAD: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> - The reciprocal tariff rate for Taiwanese products >>>>>>>>>>>>>> (which is the country of origin for the frame) is 20%, so $500 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> - The general duty rate for frames is 3.9%, so $97.50 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Brokerage processing fees are $50 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> So in this case you’d be looking at a total of $3147.50." >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> That being said, He also informed me that if I was to have >>>>>>>>>>>>>> them build up a bike that he believes it's exempt: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "About your question - a Rivendell frame built up in Canada >>>>>>>>>>>>>> should be tariff exempt under USMCA." >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, somehow between talking to Julian yesterday >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and this morning the Homer in my size sold so I wasn't able to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> consider >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> They've got some other Riv frames in stock though if anyone >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wanted a complete that might be something Riv is currently out >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of! >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Drew >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, October 29, 2025 at 7:27:44 PM UTC-4 Brian >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Turner wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You just can’t disparage the folks who initiated the whole >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tariff thing. /s >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Brian >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lexington KY >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> topic in the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/P8rr71O_rZQ/unsubscribe >>>>>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an >>>>>>>>>>>>>> email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To view this discussion visit >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/09e33a11-e8eb-426b-a0b9-6c5dd6a3d6d6n%40googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/09e33a11-e8eb-426b-a0b9-6c5dd6a3d6d6n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in >>>>>> the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/P8rr71O_rZQ/unsubscribe >>>>>> . >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>> >>>>>> To view this discussion visit >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/9893360b-a85b-4543-a804-beb6f390024en%40googlegroups.com >>>>>> >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/9893360b-a85b-4543-a804-beb6f390024en%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>> . >>>>>> <01P4180002.JPG> >>>>>> <00P4230008.JPG> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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