Albatross are a very wide bar.  The Bullmoose will be swept back
pretty far as well.  I would not think a purely straight bar would be
good or comfortable for over 12 miles at a time but I cannot argue
with what you have found. :)

With that said just find a good Nitto straight bar and dirt drop style
stem.  You will need new levers and thumbies as well.  I have no
suggestion for bars though.

On Jul 15, 6:19 pm, d2mini <d2creat...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks, but albatross sweep back way too much, putting my hands/wrists
> in a totally different position.
> I want my hands out in front and almost straight, and wider than my
> shoulders.
>
> On Jul 15, 5:14 pm, Johnny Alien <johnnyal...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > By what you said I would immediately suggest Albatross bars.  You
> > could keep the stem and bar ends and would only need to replace the
> > brake levers.  While they aren't straight I think this would be to
> > your advantage over a long drive because you will get that upright
> > position you want but also more positions that a straight mountain
> > bar.  Bullmoose are nice too but would be pricey because you would
> > have to not only buy a bar stem combo but also levers and thumbies.
> > That aside even if it was as cheap I would STILL suggest the Albatross
> > for what you are describing.
>
> > On Jul 15, 6:06 pm, William <tapebu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > My opinion might not be worth much since I always go for drop bars
> > > first, but here goes.
>
> > > If you use drop bars and find you are always on the tops, most likely
> > > your fit setup is wrong.  You should be able to comfortably ride on
> > > the hoods, easily get to the drops for speed and power, and sometimes
> > > visit the tops on a seated climb or to enjoy the view.  The counter-
> > > intuitive part is when somebody says "I'm reaching too far, I'll slide
> > > my seat forward to fix that".  That always makes it worse.  Try
> > > sliding it back, and/or tilting it up.  Sheldon Brown has an article
> > > describing that better than I would ever hope to.  If you've done that
> > > and your mind is made up, give new bars a try.
>
> > > I historically have hated straight bars, flat bars, mountain bars, and
> > > yet the Rivendell bullmoose bars are fantastic.  I emphatically
> > > encourage you to try them.  The Paul thumbies are great, also.  You
> > > might need to change out cables and housing, but perhaps not.  You'll
> > > need new brakelevers and definitely cables and housing for your
> > > brakes.  Leave the bars wide and you may find that you use 4 or 5
> > > different hand positions.
>
> > > Best of luck.
>
> > > On Jul 15, 2:47 pm, d2mini <d2creat...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Hi, sometimes excessive google searching gives me a headache. :P
>
> > > > I currently have noodle bars on my homer commuter, 42cm width. My
> > > > commute is about 12.5 miles each way and sometimes they can get a bit
> > > > uncomfortable. I spend all my time on the tops.
>
> > > > I also have a specialized mountain bike that I hit the trails with
> > > > during lunch. The trails are pretty insane, all tree roots and stuff.
> > > > We'll do a good mix of the trails and road, usually about 12 miles
> > > > total.
>
> > > > Between the two bikes, the flat bars of the mtn bike are drastically
> > > > more comfortable for me. I think it's two things... the hand/wrist
> > > > position and the wide hand position, wider than my shoulders. They
> > > > have a rise and a backward sweep, typical of pretty much every
> > > > production mtn bike these days. So I'm thinking of fitting that style
> > > > bar to my homer and wondering if you guys have any advice on making
> > > > the switch as painless as possible, in terms of what parts to use,
> > > > what needs to be swapped out, etc. I do really like my bar-end
> > > > shifters so if I could use those with thumbies or something that would
> > > > be cool. I would also like to fit a pair of retro looking ergo grips,
> > > > which i assume only come in mtn bike bar diameters?
>
> > > > All advice appreciated.
> > > > Thanks!

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