Thanks for sharing, that is a great read. Before I had a "gravel" bike I rode gravel all day on 28mm road tires and long reach caliper brakes. My hands hurt and I was generally more sore, but at the end of the day I was just as fast and had the same square metric volumes of fun.
On Saturday, August 16, 2025 at 12:28:20 PM UTC-7 Jay wrote: > Love that quote, Jason. > > On Saturday, August 16, 2025 at 12:02:31 PM UTC-4 [email protected] wrote: > >> Thanks for sharing this, Max. It's always good to be reminded of the >> reasons that n-1 > n+1. >> >> The quote, "They typically rode steel, straight top tube bikes, wore >> natural fibers, and emanated a sense of joy" reminds me of our thread >> from March 2008 >> <https://groups.google.com/u/2/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/rbUCaFLn47M/m/_NR0iRsdLn0J> >> about >> the tweed dot cc folks (their website is still up!). >> >> Omitting Riv/Grant is a journalistic oversight, but Mr. Morales is 29, so >> we need to give him time to catch up on the 40-45 Riv Readers that discuss >> such topics. Or perhaps he should have known? (He interviewed >> <https://bikepacking.com/plog/philly-bike-expo-2025-part-1/> Will >> Keating at the Philly Bike Expo and reported >> <https://bikepacking.com/bikes/bikes-of-bike-camp-2025/> on other >> all-roadish Rivs in 2025). >> >> If I may push back slightly against Mr. Morales's thesis: I *needed* a >> 2004 62cm Rambouillet and a 2006 62cm Quickbeam, even if they had >> essentially the same geometry and tires, and even if one of the Ram's 27 >> gear combinations was identical to the QB's. Alas, one can only stash so >> many bikes in apartment building stairwells. >> >> Will in NYC >> >> >> On Tuesday, August 12, 2025 at 10:14:44 PM UTC-4 maxcr wrote: >> >>> I enjoyed the article, it made me wonder if n+1 makes sense or is it >>> just the result of the progression of bike marketing. I don’t know, >>> sometimes Im happy at at N=8, while pondering a bike purchase on FB >>> marketplace or eBay, and sometimes I want to go to N=1 or 2 max and call it >>> a day because I feel the wastefulness of a basement with 6-7 bikes that >>> aren’t ridden often enough. >>> >>> Also, I found it surprising that Riv and/or Grant weren’t mentioned. >>> >>> Max >>> >>> [image: has-marketing-ruined-bikes_share1.jpg] >>> >>> Has Marketing Ruined Bikes? >>> <https://bikepacking.com/plog/has-marketing-ruined-bikes/> >>> bikepacking.com >>> <https://bikepacking.com/plog/has-marketing-ruined-bikes/> >>> <https://bikepacking.com/plog/has-marketing-ruined-bikes/> >>> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/a6d28e2a-9fb7-425d-b561-55e1a8572472n%40googlegroups.com.
