This thread is kinda funny in light of another recent discussion re:
external bearing triples, during which one commentator expressed
reluctance to "fight" with various standards and incompatibilities of
external BBs. Never used a VO BB, except the French ones, but I've
used XD cranks hundreds of times with shimano, tange, truvativ, and
phil BBs. Never a problem like this. I'd suggest trying a different
bb.

On Jul 6, 12:50 am, oldmangabe <oldmang...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I am putting my money on it being the crank not being machined
> properly.  On the drive side, at the square taper interface, the
> cranks should be turned down a bit so that one can run a short BB
> spindle.   This will allow the cranks to snug into the driveside bb
> cup without binding the crank to the cup, or to the bearing.  I've
> seen maybe 3-4 Sugino cranksets, all of them being of the XD variety
> (Sugino's basic 110 and 130 bcd crank design sold to various
> importers) over the last couple of years not have this machining.  It
> basically causes the crank to bottom out on the driveside cup much too
> soon, as the original poster has pointed out.  If one uses a longer
> spindle BB, then it does not happen, but when you are trying to get a
> good chainline (singlespeed, multispeed) or a lower Q-factor, this can
> happen with an improperly machined crank.  It sounds like you should
> contact Rivendell about getting a replacement crankset.  Good luck.
> Gabe
>
> On Jul 4, 7:43 pm, Thomas Lynn Skean <thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hi!
>
> > I tried to mount a Sugino XD2 crank from RBW on a 107mm VO bottom
> > bracket and couldn't make it work. Mounting the crank onto the
> > spindle, before I had slid it on far enough to get the appropriate
> > torque on the crank bolt, the inner portion of the crank arm
> > interfered with the bottom bracket itself! At first when I was having
> > trouble turning the cranks I thought... hmmm, did I ruin a bearing or
> > something? But no, it was just that the crank arm was literally jammed
> > up against the bottom bracket itself. Just plain weird.
>
> > Anyway, I suspect both the VO bottom bracket and the XD2 crank I have
> > are perfectly fine normal examples of their kind. And I suspect the VO
> > BB is a fine product in general, as is the XD2 crank. They just didn't
> > work together for me.
>
> > The only other bottom bracket I had lying around was a 113mm Truvativ,
> > which turns just fine for now. When it shows age, I may replace it
> > with a larger VO. I wasn't really very close to the required torque on
> > the crank when it came in contact with the bottom bracket. It isn't
> > obvious that a 110mm VO bottom bracket would work. I suspect a 113mm
> > would, though.
>
> > Perhaps I should just get the 107mm from RBW. This would give me the
> > intended chainline. However, I'm going to eyeball carefully my current
> > set up. I haven't concerned myself with Q-factor up to this point;
> > longer spindles on a bottom bracket don't bother me as long as the
> > chainline is reasonable for how I ride. I need to give that more
> > thought. I may even go with a 118mm BB if the chainline is okay. At
> > that point, the crank arms might just slip right past the two-legged
> > Pletscher kickstand when its deployed. That basically turns the
> > kickstand into a work stand. (That and a couple of ceiling-mounted $3
> > bicycle hooks were the only stand I used to the build the bike up with
> > in the first place.)
>
> > Anyway... just in case anybody else tries the 107mm VO BB with an XD2
> > crank. I wouldn't expect it to work right out of the box.
>
> > Yours,
> > Thomas Lynn Skean

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