Hi Jason, I'm rescuing this conversation as I was doing some searching on 2x11.
Just to confirm, you are indeed running a 2x11 with Silver cranks upfront? Are they the stock Silver cranks? Reason I'm asking is Riv says they're 10 speed max. Coming from Riv I would take that as seriously only for 10. Could you please share your experiences on how you made it work? I presume you are using both an 11 speed chain and rear derailer. I'm interested in the topic as I'm looking to build my Atlantis as 2x with very low gears. Thinking about pairing a 34/24 with something like a 11-45, or 11-48, or 11-50 if feasible. The only derailer I've found that would handle that kind of capacity is the Cues 11 speed (RD-U6020-11, https://bike.shimano.com/en-NA/products/components/pdp.P-RD-U6020-11.html) but that would require an 11 speed chain which, according to what I said before about Riv's cranks being 10 speed max, would be a no no. Thank you, Alfonso El miércoles, 27 de noviembre de 2024 a las 5:39:31 UTC+1, Jason Fuller escribió: > Armand - yes! The PDW safety tabs will work with both VO and Honjo fender > stays. I've used on both. Good eye on the unusual choice of eyelet for the > rear stays - it's related to the fact I am not using safety tabs back > there. These fenders are borrowed, so I didn't want to cut the stays if I > could help it. If the fenders (and the bike) are going to stay with me for > a longer period I'll trim them, add safety tabs (less critical in the rear, > but still a good idea), and mount to the fender eyelet. > > I'm actually not planning to keep this frameset long term, but I am really > enjoying it at the moment. Who knows. > > [image: PXL_20241127_022359054.NIGHT.jpg] > > On Tuesday, 26 November 2024 at 17:28:43 UTC-8 Armand Kizirian wrote: > >> Oh, and why not utilize the fender braze-ons for the rear? I see you have >> it doubled up with the rack. >> >> On Tuesday, November 26, 2024 at 5:27:39 PM UTC-8 Armand Kizirian wrote: >> >>> Jason, can you link safety clips that are compatible with Honjo fender? >>> I am very much interested in not flying over my handlebars. :) >>> >>> On Saturday, November 23, 2024 at 6:46:25 PM UTC-8 Jason Fuller wrote: >>> >>>> Pete - I learned this the hard way in 2021, when a stick in the spokes >>>> grabbed my fender stay and pulled the fender into the tire, throwing me >>>> over the bars at speed on a chunky gravel trail at the deep end of this >>>> very valley. I was extremely lucky to ride out with only scrapes and >>>> bruises, and I won't make that mistake again! >>>> >>>> Also, credit to how robust the Bombadil is that it didn't bend the >>>> frame nor fork. I've ridden it over 6000km since then and it's going >>>> strong. >>>> >>>> [image: PXL_20210816_003621833.jpg] >>>> >>>> On Saturday, 23 November 2024 at 09:54:53 UTC-8 Pete P wrote: >>>> >>>>> Jason, >>>>> That is a beauty. I like the swooping to tube as it meets the seat >>>>> tube. I prefer this design over the gallop with the straight top tube. >>>>> You >>>>> improved it too with the silver fenders. Glad to see the safety clips on >>>>> the front fender stays too. Sticks are a real problem when off road. Love >>>>> that gold color too. >>>>> Pete >>>>> On Saturday, November 23, 2024 at 9:00:39 AM UTC-6 Danny wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Jason, wow, great write up and photos. That's one beautiful place to >>>>>> explore! Thanks for sharing the route, hope I can ride my Susie up there >>>>>> one day. >>>>>> >>>>>> -Danny >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Nov 22, 2024 at 10:19 PM Menos Joven <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I thoroughly enjoyed your write up complete with photos to get a >>>>>>> sense of your ride through this magical forest. Thank you so much for >>>>>>> sharing. Just for yucks, the peanut gallery part of me is thinking that >>>>>>> your photos have given me permission to finally use a kickstand if I so >>>>>>> choose. :) >>>>>>> On Friday, November 22, 2024 at 9:50:07 AM UTC-8 Jason Fuller wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I just point my camera phone around, it's the beauty of the forest >>>>>>>> that makes the photos good! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I am happy to take anyone visiting Vancouver on this loop! I try >>>>>>>> to do it once a month. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Friday, 22 November 2024 at 03:35:58 UTC-8 [email protected] >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I gotta say…now all I can think about is moving somewhere near the >>>>>>>>> Seymour Valley bike trail and getting in line to beg Jason to build >>>>>>>>> me up a >>>>>>>>> gorgeous Susie to ride on it. In November. (Drooling). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Liz in Cincinnati (which is a nice town, but we don’t have ANY >>>>>>>>> views like Jason’s views). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Friday, November 22, 2024 at 6:21:14 AM UTC-5 Ryan wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Jason, I am not sure what you do for a living, but I gotta say, >>>>>>>>>> you should quit your day-job and just take pictures. And write. And >>>>>>>>>> your >>>>>>>>>> Susie is the perfect autumn color. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, November 21, 2024 at 7:27:43 PM UTC-6 Jason Fuller >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I got out on my favourite local loop this past weekend on the >>>>>>>>>>> Susie, a 50km gravel & light singletrack loop in the Seymour >>>>>>>>>>> valley. I >>>>>>>>>>> wrote it up on my website mostly to convey the photos in full >>>>>>>>>>> resolution >>>>>>>>>>> that were popular in the Fall Riding pics thread. The photos still >>>>>>>>>>> do >>>>>>>>>>> little justice for how amazing it is to be in this forest during >>>>>>>>>>> late >>>>>>>>>>> November drizzle, easily my favourite time of year to be out there >>>>>>>>>>> despite >>>>>>>>>>> the cold and wet. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> This was the first bigger ride on the bike, as I've mostly been >>>>>>>>>>> commuting and barely topped 20km per ride prior to this aboard it. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> https://www.jasonmytail.com/2024-11-17-susie-lscr-loop/ >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, 29 October 2024 at 20:29:23 UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Ed - the tires are Rene Herse Umtanum 650x55, wrapped in >>>>>>>>>>>> Simworks Flat 65 fenders. It's a good combination, the Susie has >>>>>>>>>>>> plenty of >>>>>>>>>>>> extra clearance but this maxes out what I can fit under V-brakes. >>>>>>>>>>>> Without >>>>>>>>>>>> fenders I'd be comfortable with a 2.5 to 2.6 with V-brakes. The >>>>>>>>>>>> Motolites >>>>>>>>>>>> are nice to set up, you can just install the pads to be parallel >>>>>>>>>>>> the rim, >>>>>>>>>>>> and then use the 'collar' to adjust up-down as well as fine tune >>>>>>>>>>>> the toe-in >>>>>>>>>>>> rather than try to set all these at the same time using the cup >>>>>>>>>>>> and cone >>>>>>>>>>>> washers. I appreciated that the Susie's studs were spaced >>>>>>>>>>>> appropriately for >>>>>>>>>>>> the Cliffhanger rims as well >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Brendon - I'll probably bring the bars down a bit, but yes >>>>>>>>>>>> since I'm on the 50 despite being able to fit a 53 easily I've got >>>>>>>>>>>> a bit >>>>>>>>>>>> less stack which is good! I can bring them down to basically >>>>>>>>>>>> level with >>>>>>>>>>>> the saddle if I want to. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Richard (and also Brendon) - I can definitely see moving away >>>>>>>>>>>> from the Ortho bar for singletrack. I have a Stooge for trail >>>>>>>>>>>> riding as >>>>>>>>>>>> well as the Crust Wombat, so my off-road needs are fully met >>>>>>>>>>>> between those >>>>>>>>>>>> two and I love them both. It begs the question, isn't the Susie >>>>>>>>>>>> more bike >>>>>>>>>>>> than I need if my purpose for it is commuting, cruising around >>>>>>>>>>>> town, and >>>>>>>>>>>> just a bit of gravel and trail riding? So far I'm really enjoying >>>>>>>>>>>> it for >>>>>>>>>>>> these purposes, but it'll be interesting to go back and forth with >>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>> Bombadil and compare. Bombadil is obviously stiffer and more >>>>>>>>>>>> compact, both >>>>>>>>>>>> super capable. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday 28 October 2024 at 18:23:27 UTC-7 [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> A little bit of apples/oranges perhaps as my bike is a Gus. >>>>>>>>>>>>> But I had a similar experience with Bosco on it. I made some >>>>>>>>>>>>> calculations & >>>>>>>>>>>>> took a chance on an Albacore bar. Coupled with a 35mm stem it has >>>>>>>>>>>>> transformed the Gus into a singletrack joy if not a beast.:) The >>>>>>>>>>>>> Bosco was >>>>>>>>>>>>> pretty great however just cruising. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 28, 2024, at 9:01 PM, brendonoid < >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> This Crust Vid <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFM2o5Hl584&t> >>>>>>>>>>>>> was a huge inspiration for me to pull the trigger on getting a >>>>>>>>>>>>> Susie in the >>>>>>>>>>>>> second batch, the Ortho-Susie combo just seemed so right. >>>>>>>>>>>>> In the end I didn't enjoy the Ortho on my XL Susie because the >>>>>>>>>>>>> stack is just so high I couldn't get the reach where I wanted >>>>>>>>>>>>> without it >>>>>>>>>>>>> all feeling just too upright. I ride my Susie on some pretty >>>>>>>>>>>>> serious single >>>>>>>>>>>>> track adventures so the flex with the quill stem was more >>>>>>>>>>>>> sketch, than >>>>>>>>>>>>> pleasant, also. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Looks like it works pretty spot on in your size though Jason! >>>>>>>>>>>>> Bloody nice. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >>>>>>>>>>>>> it, send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>>>> To view this discussion visit >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/7cd165cf-f026-48be-9120-5fc55b9fc701n%40googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/7cd165cf-f026-48be-9120-5fc55b9fc701n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> >>>>>> To view this discussion visit >>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/0d3c44b4-d441-4ace-8b7e-200b10b8fa45n%40googlegroups.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/0d3c44b4-d441-4ace-8b7e-200b10b8fa45n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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