Mackenzy wrote: " Seat tubes themselves are usually one of the thickest 
tubes, no?"

Seat tubes are tend to be thick at the bottom, close to the BB. They tend 
to be thin at the top, near the seatpost. See Reed Kennedy's compilation of 
tube measurements 
<https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1XeS2nJhBPSDRbqgG1-F2VOI_vK1QZnZmysARDJWyGps/edit?gid=500288468#gid=500288468>
 
for some Riv and other examples (No, Sam H though, unfortunately). Hope 
that helps.

On Wednesday, March 26, 2025 at 10:56:25 AM UTC-7 Edwin W wrote:

> Paul,
>
> Sorry to hear, as we all love Rivendells and all hate to see an 
> imperfection in such perfect bikes!
>
> That said, I would:
> Sand down the area so that the metal is exposed and you can really see 
> what is going on as others have said. 
> If a seat post can be inserted past the imperfection, I do think that will 
> increase the safety greatly.
> If I owned a bike company, and someone bought a bike my company made 
> second hand, and asked me if they could still ride it with that 
> imperfection, I would not want to issue an opinion! So, I don't think I 
> would put that pressure on Rivendell - their involvement is too far 
> removed, I think... but I will be interested to hear what others think.
>
> Please send us updated pictures and tell us what you do.
>
> Edwin
>
> On Saturday, March 22, 2025 at 8:39:17 PM UTC-5 Paul wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>> I just received my Sam Hillborne frame bought second-hand and noticed a 
>> crack just under the back of the seat post lug.
>>
>> Though I hate to admit it, it looks like a crack in the steel. There are 
>> two thin dark lines visible from the outside, and a sort of 'dent' inside 
>> on the opposite. I am attaching pictures.
>>
>> Can anyone from the group second my guess? Did any of you have a similar 
>> case on one of your Riv frames?
>>
>> And what would you do in my situation? The person I bought it from hadn't 
>> noticed it and was riding the bike fine despite the crack. Should I just 
>> put a long seat post (which reinforces the area anyway, unlike a cracked 
>> head tube or bb shell) and ride the bike like this?
>>
>> I can't yet imagine bringing it for repair at a frame builder because 
>> buying the frame in the first place was quite a stretch in budget for me.
>>
>> I'd love to hear your thoughts and advice!
>> Cheers,
>> Paul
>>
>

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