Agree with Jim, but I'd ask for a *full refund *and return*.* If no, then 
I'd ask for  partial refund.

I do think it's ridable like that, but it does look cracked to my eye. 
Replacing the seattube might be prohibitive expensive, but if you have a 
local framebuilder who does repairs, I'd still take it to them. Maybe there 
is something they can do to at least relieve the stresses. Cracks by there 
nature are stress risers and without some sort of relief they are likely to 
keep growing.

Ben

On Sunday, March 23, 2025 at 10:46:00 AM UTC-7 Jim M. wrote:

> I'd ask for a partial refund. That's a flaw that should have been 
> disclosed, though apparently they didn't know about it.
>
> jim
> walnut creek
>
> On Sunday, March 23, 2025 at 6:54:59 AM UTC-7 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
> wrote:
>
>> Remove that paint as it’s the only thing that’s definitely cracked. That 
>> way you’ll get a clear view of what’s underneath and there’s not a place 
>> for water to get trapped. Probably get it most of the way gone with a 
>> toothpick.
>> Be the bike dentist 🦷 
>> -Kai
>>
>> On Saturday, March 22, 2025 at 9:39:17 PM UTC-4 [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>> I just received my Sam Hillborne frame bought second-hand and noticed a 
>>> crack just under the back of the seat post lug.
>>>
>>> Though I hate to admit it, it looks like a crack in the steel. There are 
>>> two thin dark lines visible from the outside, and a sort of 'dent' inside 
>>> on the opposite. I am attaching pictures.
>>>
>>> Can anyone from the group second my guess? Did any of you have a similar 
>>> case on one of your Riv frames?
>>>
>>> And what would you do in my situation? The person I bought it from 
>>> hadn't noticed it and was riding the bike fine despite the crack. Should I 
>>> just put a long seat post (which reinforces the area anyway, unlike a 
>>> cracked head tube or bb shell) and ride the bike like this?
>>>
>>> I can't yet imagine bringing it for repair at a frame builder because 
>>> buying the frame in the first place was quite a stretch in budget for me.
>>>
>>> I'd love to hear your thoughts and advice!
>>> Cheers,
>>> Paul
>>>
>>

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