Thanks for the response, John. I have same saddle on both bikes and measure to stem centre, hoods, etc. I had the Fargo before "goldilocks" (I call my Roadini that lol), and now that goldilocks is, just that, and can't match the Fargo to her. I'm using a 55mm stem with 6 rise (only option for that Redshift stem) and that puts the bars at the right distance from the saddle, but too high. If I go with a negative 60mm stem (which I have done), the hoods are further but height is better (still not on par with goldilocks).
I've really been noticing this recently, as the winter has been harsh and I'm using the Fargo as my winter road bike (with studded tires on one wheelset, and just wider gravel tires on another)...so long roadish rides on the Fargo, where I usually ride it the other 8 months of the year is on trails, treating it like a MTB (off the saddle a lot, not sitting still so much and pedalling). As the weather improves I'll be on the Roadini a lot more, and I'm sure that pain will subside. I've tried swept-back / alt bars on the Fargo once but that particular bar wasn't for me. And it's a lot of work to swap and try different bars (not to mention $$). On Thursday, March 6, 2025 at 6:32:15 PM UTC-5 johnrober...@gmail.com wrote: > Hi Jay...great question....I do not keep any stack heights that high from > the saddle, but something you may want to try.....first, loosen up the stem > at the bars and rotate the bars so that the brifters "feel right". It may > look ugly, the drops pointed too far down, etc., but try it....then, if > that's a no go, a shorter stem, or a negative rise (flop the stem downward) > might be of value. I always measure my different bikes by getting the > length measurement from the "Goldilocks" bike, center of the saddle, where > the seat post WOULD intersect the saddle, to the center or tops of the > hoods. Also, check from the center of the stem, (the gap between the face > plate) and the same center of the saddle. Those numbers are very handy and > enlightening. Eyeballs aren't always that helpful...the trusty measuring > tape tells no lies. Best of luck finding comfort bliss! > > JohnRobertWilliams > Traverse City, MI > (waiting for the snow to melt and the wind chill to get above 30) > > On Thu, Mar 6, 2025 at 6:22 PM Jay <jason....@gmail.com> wrote: > >> This isn't specific to a Rivendell bike, but I'm sure the conversation >> can be applied to them, so hope you don't mind... >> >> In addition to my Roadini, I have a Salsa Fargo. I had it for a year >> before I got the Roadini, the Roadini replaced my road bike (that is now >> the dedicated bike on the smart trainer, which I ride as little as >> possible!). >> >> I've had on-and-off upper body discomfort on the Fargo, and I think it's >> due to the high stack height. I'm using a 55mm Redshift stem on the Fargo >> right now, as low as it can go on the steerer tube (thin spacer below). I >> have drop bars on it (same drops as on the Roadini). The hoods are nearly >> 2cm higher than the saddle vs. the Roadini (Roadini around 1cm higher, >> Fargo around 3cm higher). Roadini feels just perfect, Fargo feels like I'm >> lifting my shoulders up to place my hands on the hoods. And my hands on >> the hoods is not not comfortable. I've now tried two different brifters, >> different positions on the bars, and the bars rotated down and up all to no >> solution. >> >> Does anyone have their hoods 3cm+ higher than their saddle and if so, is >> this comfortable for you? We're all different and I'm sure some like the >> bars (hoods) much lower than the saddle, some level, some higher; but I see >> a diminishing return with the hoods too high. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/ab5a800f-1902-42b4-bea3-54c15e89ea1dn%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/ab5a800f-1902-42b4-bea3-54c15e89ea1dn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > > > -- > John Robert Williams > > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/aadfcd8b-158c-4ac4-9433-4f7059f32408n%40googlegroups.com.
