This isn't specific to a Rivendell bike, but I'm sure the conversation can 
be applied to them, so hope you don't mind...

In addition to my Roadini, I have a Salsa Fargo.  I had it for a year 
before I got the Roadini, the Roadini replaced my road bike (that is now 
the dedicated bike on the smart trainer, which I ride as little as 
possible!).  

I've had on-and-off upper body discomfort on the Fargo, and I think it's 
due to the high stack height.  I'm using a 55mm Redshift stem on the Fargo 
right now, as low as it can go on the steerer tube (thin spacer below).  I 
have drop bars on it (same drops as on the Roadini).  The hoods are nearly 
2cm higher than the saddle vs. the Roadini (Roadini around 1cm higher, 
Fargo around 3cm higher).  Roadini feels just perfect, Fargo feels like I'm 
lifting my shoulders up to place my hands on the hoods.  And my hands on 
the hoods is not not comfortable.  I've now tried two different brifters, 
different positions on the bars, and the bars rotated down and up all to no 
solution.

Does anyone have their hoods 3cm+ higher than their saddle and if so, is 
this comfortable for you?  We're all different and I'm sure some like the 
bars (hoods) much lower than the saddle, some level, some higher; but I see 
a diminishing return with the hoods too high.

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