I'm late to the party here but let me throw my experience on the pile: I 
prefer to ride in street clothes: cotton underwear and jeans to ride to 
work or across town.
Shortish rides, say 25 miles: shorts and underwear.

This is on mostly B-17s. I've come to the conclusion that I can lose 
weight, but it won't make my sitz bones much narrower. I bought a B-68 from 
Rivendell last fall but haven't mounted it yet. While we're at it: the 
Cambium C-19 feels a lot like a B-17.

Last year, I thought I'd figured this out, or trained my butt, or whatever, 
and started doing longer rides in the spring... and then it got humid and  
I went on a 45-mile ride and my (synthetic) Costco shorts sand-papered the 
back of my legs, just below the cheeks. I didn't even notice anything 
beyond mild discomfort, but then I took a shower and discovered I had 
chafed my legs bloody. Took a week to heal, never again.

I don't like bib shorts, but I'll wear regular cycling shorts for longer 
rides; the price is washing them by hand. 
A good compromise is Andiamo shorts under street shorts, that protects the 
legs from shafing, and the padding is minimal. That will work for all but 
the longest rides.

cheers -mathias
East Lansing, MI
On Sunday, January 26, 2025 at 6:31:50 AM UTC-5 Frank Burkybile wrote:

> Ha! It makes me wonder how they came up with the idea of using meat as a 
> cushion? Kind of like who was the first person to figure out which 
> mushrooms you can eat? Or which toads to lick?
>
> Reminds me of a time in my college days where we took a road trip across 
> Texas and tried cooking a meal on our engine while we drove. I assume it 
> worked better than the steak trick but then again I’ve never tried it so 
> who knows? 
>
> On Sun, Jan 26, 2025 at 4:23 AM Patrick Moore <bert...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> All actors were professionals, don’t try this at home, but I recall a man 
>> who belonged to our church 20 + years ago who had moved from Denver to 
>> Albuquerque in mid-winter riding a KMart mountain bike over the Raton Pass. 
>> He told me how, back in the 1960s, he and friends would ride from LA to San 
>> Diego wearing whatever they had in lieu of real cycling clothing, which 
>> meant, for shorts, cut-off jeans. To prevent chafing they’d stuff steaks 
>> down the crotch; I don’t know from steak cuts, but these must have been 
>> quite thin ones. Apparently steak was much more affordable back in the 
>> early 1960s. I expect that the steaks stained their Brooks saddles a nice 
>> oxblood color.
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 25, 2025 at 5:44 PM Eric Marth <eric...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> .. In warm weather I like to lubricate my under carriage with coconut 
>>> oil to prevent friction and chaffing
>>>
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