Liz,
I have been down the same path with Silver 2 shifters. I really wanted them 
to work for me but in the end I changed to Microshift. No more slipping.
Doug

On Friday, January 17, 2025 at 7:58:22 AM UTC-5 meti...@gmail.com wrote:

> Good question, Eric! We’re gonna try Microshifts that can be switched to 
> go with either way. I use similar friction/index shifters on my Atlantis 
> and always keep them switched to friction, the mode I prefer. 
>
> Sent with delight from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 17, 2025, at 7:39 AM, Eric Daume <eric...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Are you keeping with friction shifting, or going indexed?
>
>
> Eric
>
> On Friday, January 17, 2025, meti...@gmail.com <meti...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Good Friday morning, friends. 
>>
>> I took a beautiful ride on my new Platy yesterday…yes, there is still 
>> salt and some ice on the roads and snow is everywhere, but temps were in 
>> the 20s and I decided to get the bike out anyway. I don’t want to be so 
>> persnickety about a bicycle that I can’t ride it. I’ll pamper it later on. 
>>
>> We initially put a new chain on it, but the gears still slipped. 
>>
>> Next, we replaced the cassette and also added the dab of blue Locktite 
>> everyone suggested to the D ring of the shifter, and the 30-minute ride 
>> following those changes proved to solve the shifting issue but turned up a 
>> new audible and palpable thumping when in one single gear. My hero 
>> mechanics filed down a nub on the new chain and the thumping disappeared. 
>>
>> I’m convinced my initial slipping/ghost-shifting problem has been 
>> solved…either by replacing the cassette or by the Locktite or the 
>> combination of those two.  
>>
>> Here’s a decision I  might question myself on later—my mechanics and I 
>> have  lost some confidence in these Silver shifters on my bike, y’all. I 
>> can’t help it. And I’m not speaking badly about the shifters or other 
>> bicycles or cyclists who find they work well…I’m speaking only of my bike 
>> and these shifter and me. 
>>
>> Each time the bike is on the stand, when the mechanics shift through the 
>> gears, even they have to WORK and fiddle to get the higher gears to settle 
>> into gear. Is that making sense? The shifters seem too stiff in those 
>> highest gears, and it takes too much finagling and kid-glove handling to 
>> get things to work right. I’m not into that kind of riding—I want to shift 
>> as I always shift…I’m a competent enough rider and I’ve been at this a long 
>> time and I know how to shift and I don’t want to effing think about being 
>> careful in the higher gears—so we’re replacing the shifters. I’ll be out of 
>> town for a week or two, and when I return, I should have new shifters. They 
>> might not work well either…I don’t know. But we’re gonna try it. 
>>
>> Liz, and that’s that,  in Cincinnati
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 14, 2025 at 6:36:52 PM UTC-5 John Williams wrote:
>>
>>> Happy New Year Liz!
>>> How frustrating for you!
>>>
>>> There a a few issues/questions:
>>> Are you riding a 1x or 2x chainring set up?
>>>
>>> Has the rear derailleur alignment been checked? (The dropout?)
>>>
>>> Are the two jockey wheels aligned?
>>> If you stand behind the parked bike, in the lowest gear, close one eye 
>>> and imagine a line strait up and down where the chain comes up off the two 
>>> wheels. If it’s cocked in any way, that can lead to the ghost shifts. It 
>>> can also be the jockey wheels aren’t lubed or aren’t the proper ones for 
>>> your shift system. 
>>>
>>> Are you certain that the rear cable is free of any possible crimps, 
>>> (like under the bottom bracket?) Do you have a kick stand mounted? If so, 
>>> look carefully at the cables adjacent to the kickstand and that the cables 
>>> do NOT touch the kickstand or its bracket. It’s often overlooked. 
>>>
>>> Another test- grab the rear bare shift cable and see if that shifts and 
>>> overrides the shifters. (You may need to put your bike on a stationary 
>>> trainer).  
>>>
>>> Last check- make certain you don’t have a modern 11-12 speed chain on 
>>> the bike. It takes the older, wider chain on these wider spaced 
>>> freewheels/cassettes. 
>>>
>>> Good luck!
>>> (I wish I had a Platypus, 60, Ana Purple)
>>>
>>> JRW
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 6, 2025 at 10:45 AM meti...@gmail.com <meti...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Your thoughts on a skipping/slipping/floating chain and gear, please.
>>>>
>>>> In late November 2024. I received my newly built up Platypus from C&L 
>>>> Cycles in Montreal. I love it beyond description. However, there’s one 
>>>> very 
>>>> frustrating issue that I can’t figure out and wonder what insight you 
>>>> friends might have about it.
>>>>
>>>> From the get-go, the gears have slipped. Yes, I’m using friction Silver 
>>>> Shifters, and I’ve spent a lot of time eliminating myself as the problem 
>>>> here. But I’ve ALWAYS used friction shifters on every bike (other than my 
>>>> Clem) and I’m not a klutz, and I’ve tried really really hard to be land 
>>>> these gear changes, but this problem just keeps happening. I’ve put 
>>>> probably 200 miles on the Platypus and I’ve not taken a single ride on it 
>>>> that this has not been a problem. 
>>>>
>>>> The issue occurs on the rear 9-gear cassette and almost always in the 
>>>> highest 3 gears…especially when going uphill or cresting a hill, but not 
>>>> always. 
>>>>
>>>> Sometimes the chain seems to simply float EVEN WHEN I’M NOT PEDALING, 
>>>> and then it lands wherever it wants without my touching the shifter.
>>>>
>>>> This is driving me nuts because I adore this bicycle and this problem 
>>>> is making me lose trust. It’s not safe to ride in the kind of traffic I 
>>>> ride.
>>>>
>>>> I’ve taken the bike to my local bike shop, and we’ve changed the chain, 
>>>> but the issue continues. 
>>>>
>>>> (I’m pretty sure no one at the bike shop is actually riding the 
>>>> Playtpus very far, which is disappointing…because I’m convinced that if 
>>>> they ride it far enough they would experience the problem. But I can’t 
>>>> force them to take it for a long ride in cold and sloppy weather, so now 
>>>> I’m considering next moves.)
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone know of any issues like this with the Silver Shifters? I’m 
>>>> considering replacing them with Shimano. Or maybe a new cassette? Maybe an 
>>>> 8-gears cassette—which is what I have on my trusty Atlantis and with which 
>>>> I’ve never had an issue with shifting. 
>>>>
>>>> I sent an email to Rivendell yesterday, which they should read some 
>>>> time today, but I thought I might get somewhere with this group, too. 
>>>>
>>>> Liz (who probably isn’t a klutz, but the thought still lingers that it 
>>>> might be me but it’s not), snowbound in Cincinnati
>>>>
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