Bryce - ahh that's a good point, now that you say it, it seems only logical 
that the next generation of Hillibike will use these lugs and a straight 
top tube that's thicker gauge than the CHG.  Should not only improve the 
cost / fab time, but stiffen up the frame a bit too I'd expect.  I kinda 
hope that this head badge is for the kids' bike and the next gen Hillibike 
will soon follow though because this headbadge isn't very elegant to my 
eyes 

On Sunday, 12 January 2025 at 18:02:32 UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:

> John,
> Thank you for the link. I've watched about half of it and it is 
> fascinating. I had read much of that history but seeing the photos by Wende 
> Cragg and interviews with the mountain biking founding fathers is pure gold.
> Doug
>
> On Sunday, January 12, 2025 at 8:18:45 PM UTC-5 John Rinker wrote:
>
>> Hey Doug,
>>
>> Klunkers were the original mountain bikes and were cobbled together from 
>> older Schwinn newsboy bicycles (or some such). There's a fine film over on 
>> The Radavist called Camera Corner 
>> <https://theradavist.com/camera-corner-documentary-wende-cragg/> which 
>> sheds more light on this. 
>>
>> Cheers, John
>>
>> On Sunday, January 12, 2025 at 3:18:38 PM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:
>>
>>> I have been looking at Klunker bikes lately because a guy at work has 
>>> one. I had to look up the definition of a Klunker and it's not clear. I 
>>> think they are single speed with pedal brakes, maybe, and wide tires. The 
>>> ones I've seen have a similar frame shape. Could we see a Rivendell Klunker 
>>> in 2025? If you have more insight on what makes a Klunker a Klunker I would 
>>> be interested.
>>>
>>> Mone SB2 complete (pictured) $3,500
>>>
>>> [image: DSC02795.jpg]
>>> Doug
>>>
>>> On Sunday, January 12, 2025 at 1:12:00 PM UTC-5 Robert Tilley wrote:
>>>
>>>> I don’t know about the bike but the Y reminds me that I have long 
>>>> thought that Riv should design and sell a Yo Yo at some point.  Lugged of 
>>>> course. Maybe with hemp twine in place of the string.
>>>>
>>>> Robert Tilley
>>>> San Diego, CA
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 10, 2025, at 10:50 AM, Bill Lindsay <tape...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Grant's latest blagh includes a head badge mockup.  
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/grant-petersens-blog/january-blahg-1
>>>>
>>>> down at the bottom.  It's comparatively simple, artistically, and it's 
>>>> basically a big letter Y.  So, what's it going to be?
>>>>
>>>> A. a re-release of the only Rivendell model to start with a Y: the Yves 
>>>> Gomez?
>>>> B. A Rivendell recreation of the Trek Y-foil bikes in the 1990s?
>>>> C. A play on the question "Why?" with some new bike that nobody asks 
>>>> for?  
>>>> D. None of the above
>>>>
>>>> I think it's probably none of the above.  The Yves Gomez had two head 
>>>> badges already, one was a kinda boring "YG", and the other was an amazing 
>>>> clockwork gear headbadge that maybe never actually came on a bike.  So 
>>>> it's 
>>>> probably not A.  B is obviously a joke. C is not likely either.  They'd 
>>>> more likely do a "?" than a letter "Y".  
>>>>
>>>> What do you think it'll be?  Wrong answers welcome!
>>>>
>>>> Bill Lindsay
>>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>>
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