There is a Chinese knockoff option that's quite a bit cheaper. I'm cheap, but it's been the best money I've spent on bikes with exposed cable
On Wed, Dec 4, 2024, 3:31 PM George Schick <bhim...@gmail.com> wrote: > Will - wow! I was unaware of that Jagwire cable housing kit. It's a bit > pricy, though. What I have been doing is buy a couple feet of Shimano > compatible index shift cable housing (usually Jagwire) from an LBS, split > the housing with a utility knife along the length of the cable, remove the > wires, and use small lengths of the plastic inner guide to run the shift > cables across the BB shell. It works great, but they eventually wear and > split and require replacement every so often. > George > > On Wednesday, December 4, 2024 at 2:20:41 PM UTC-6 wboe...@gmail.com > wrote: > >> You need Jagwire's Elite housing set >> <https://www.treefortbikes.com/Jagwire-Elite-Sealed-Shift-Cable-Kit-SRAM-Shimano-Ultra-Slick?srsltid=AfmBOorlU7OVf312X9YyrnyliHLVX58UHtGMGN7j6wkiOdVkuMQzLfXB-vU>. >> Liner runs all the way from shifter to derailleur, no exposed cable. Never >> replace your cables again. I'm not positive it's long enough for Rivs, >> however. I've had a set on a mountain bike for 5+years with no issues. >> >> Will >> >> On Wednesday, December 4, 2024 at 2:38:00 PM UTC-5 Steve wrote: >> >>> Kim, if you're concerned about water finding its way into your guide (as >>> Benz pots out) you could pick up a couple Jagwire housing caps as pictured >>> below. They should do the trick. I've been using them for several years >>> and am pleased with their performance. >>> --- If you decide to give them a try you might want to thread the >>> cable through the end caps and noodle before you actually press fit the >>> caps into place - just to make it easier. >>> >>> [image: Lined Alloy End Caps] >>> >>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/395831788718?chn=ps&mkevt=1&mkcid=28&google_free_listing_action=view_item&com_cvv=8fb3d522dc163aeadb66e08cd7450cbbdddc64c6cf2e8891f6d48747c6d56d2c >>> >>> On Wednesday, December 4, 2024 at 1:53:23 PM UTC-5 Kim H. wrote: >>> >>>> @ Benz, >>>> >>>> Respectively, I appreciate your insights and opinions to my custom steel >>>> BB cable guide. >>>> >>>> However, I remain in high thought concerning my steel BB cable guide >>>> that it does elevates the cable higher off of the BB as well as above the >>>> chain stay. IMHO, I foresee that there is less friction or dray on the >>>> original plastic cable guide. >>>> >>>> I will inject grease into the cable guide to protect water entry. >>>> Otherwise, it works for me. >>>> >>>> Kim Hetzel who use to live on Bernardo Avenue in Sunnyvale, California >>>> as a child. >>>> >>>> On Tuesday, December 3, 2024 at 9:13:08 PM UTC-8 Benz Ouyang, >>>> Sunnyvale, CA wrote: >>>> >>>>> Sorry but I'm going to rain on your parade a bit by being skeptical >>>>> about the improvements you claimed. >>>>> >>>>> There is very little friction from the bend at the bottom of the BB >>>>> shell, particularly when a plastic guide is involved – the contact is >>>>> short >>>>> and (more importantly) the tension of the shift cable is light. Most of >>>>> the >>>>> friction will be from the significantly longer runs of housing from the >>>>> barend shifter to the cable stop, and from the cable stop to the >>>>> derailleur. Anyone with downtube friction shifters that are set too light >>>>> will attest to almost frictionless shifting with all the tactile feedback >>>>> coming from the derailleur return spring, particularly with the front >>>>> derailleur (that actually wraps more degrees around the plastic BB shell >>>>> guide). >>>>> >>>>> I suspect by having to thread the shifter cable through your >>>>> contraption, you've also cleaned up at least the derailleur-side of the >>>>> run >>>>> and refined the cable adjustment, leading to most of the improvement you >>>>> observed. In addition, while the newer Rivendells have longer chain stays >>>>> necessitating longer cable runs, the extra length is *unhoused*, >>>>> meaning there should be no additional friction compared to bikes with >>>>> "normal" chain stay lengths. >>>>> >>>>> Last but not least, the BB shell is at the lowest point of the cable >>>>> run. Water ingested into the custom tube guide won't be able to evaporate >>>>> away quickly. Even if you use stainless cable and tubing, there's still >>>>> pooling, which shouldn't happen with a well-maintained bike. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tuesday, December 3, 2024 at 1:47:27 PM UTC-8 krhe...@gmail.com >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Upon owning a Rivendell Clem Smith Jr. "L" bicycle, I have very long >>>>>> chain stays. This has given me to thought of how can I increase the speed >>>>>> of shifting by reducing the friction and slack times for better shifting >>>>>> through the BB cable guide for my right indexed Shimano Dura-Ace >>>>>> SL-BS77 bar end shifter. >>>>>> >>>>>> I came up with an idea. I took a curved V brake noodle. I removed >>>>>> both end pieces and the plastic sleeve from inside. I measured the >>>>>> appropriate length to cut it. I took a Dremel tool and bit. I carefully >>>>>> carved a wider channel on the plastic BB guide to accommodate the steel >>>>>> tube. I repeatedly kept bending the piece of tubing to the right angle >>>>>> for >>>>>> the best passage of the rear derailleur cable. I returned the plastic >>>>>> sleeve to the steel tube and cut it to a shorter length. >>>>>> >>>>>> Once that was done, I placed two plastic cable housing caps on either >>>>>> end. I used Gorilla Clear Maximum Strength Construction Adhesive to glue >>>>>> down the steel tube onto the BB guide. Let it set for 24 hours. >>>>>> >>>>>> Upon my return, I threaded the rear derailleur cable through the new >>>>>> tube and pulled out the slack in the Shimano RD M531 long caged rear >>>>>> derailleur and tighten the anchoring bolt. >>>>>> >>>>>> My test ride results are as follows: >>>>>> >>>>>> The report on the custom BB steel cable guide I made, there was a >>>>>> significant improvement in shifting up into the lower gears, whilst >>>>>> shifting back down into the higher gears, there was a slight delay. With >>>>>> such a long rear derailleur cable, I believe this is going to be >>>>>> expected. >>>>>> I am happy to say that there was no "ghost shifting " whatsoever. YAY! >>>>>> All >>>>>> the slack in the cable was pulled out. (I had prior issues with 'ghost >>>>>> shifting". I was unaware of the rear derailleur cable as loose and needed >>>>>> fixing.) >>>>>> >>>>>> No grease nor oil has been applied inside the plastic sleeve of the >>>>>> tube at this time. >>>>>> >>>>>> Overall, I feel my custom BB steel cable guide has been an >>>>>> improvement over what was before. >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes, I do have a lot of helicopter tape on my frameset. >>>>>> >>>>>> Kim Hetzel, who loves to tinker. >>>>>> >>>>>> [image: 20241123_213949.jpg] >>>>>> >>>>>> [image: 20241128_060401.jpg] >>>>>> >>>>>> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/Xekc_WZ2Pfk/unsubscribe > . > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/cf3dec7c-ecb8-497e-a898-0e9c387b1b33n%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/cf3dec7c-ecb8-497e-a898-0e9c387b1b33n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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