Joe, 
I'm a little surprised as we are about the same size (though I have not 
measured my PBH in a long time so don't know mine), and my QB  is also a 
60CM and if you were to ask me before all this what size stem for drops I 
would have gone back to 80-90MM.  Just based on your measurements I would 
have guessed 60CM and 62 CM Legolas (which has a 59.5 TT) would be too 
large for drops but maybe you are a little more stretched out.  

which comes all the way back to I dont know if albatross is best option 
since it will bring the bars back further and it sounds like you are 
already at a good spot, so albastache sound like the right next step.   but 
what I don't think the albastache give you is as much rise.  

to respond to Eric, the QB as the "one bike to rule them all" was a 
necessity as I moved into an apt in Brooklyn and it lives next to the 
radiator, there is no room for a second bike.   I took it on a bike camp 
trip over the summer-2 days, 60mi first day, 40 mi second day with about 
3000ft of climbing, which is not that much but on a 44x17 singlespeed is a 
bit of work.  pretty much everyone asks me why, but the QB is the only bike 
I have ever ridden that has that un-nameable 'magic'.   and yes, I did both 
those days with albatross bars with out too much drama other than being not 
in shape!  


On Monday, November 18, 2024 at 2:08:09 PM UTC-5 Mojo wrote:

> Thank you for your thoughts and experience. 
>
> A bit more about me and the QB. I am 6ft with an 89cm PBH, and enjoy Russ 
> Roca's 'Party Pace.'
> When I called Riv Hq to order the QB, the thoughtful person asked if I 
> intended to ride it offroad. I said yes which hasn't been the case. So I 
> took their suggestion of a 60cm frame. Since 2005 the handlebars have 
> risen, and the tires and pedals have gotten bigger. I agree with Minh that 
> the frame is on the small side but it feels good to ride. I would say the 
> reach on the QB is on the long side of comfortable for me with its 58cm top 
> tube and 12cm stem. I am hoping to come up and back some with a change to a 
> riser bar.
>  My favorite road bike these days is a 62cm Legolas. The QB and Legolas 
> achieve the same riding position including bar-height and reach.
>
> Thanks Minh for your applicable experience.
> Jeffery, I like the idea of keeping my current drop-bar setup for swapping 
> back, at least for some long trial period.
> Thanks DavidP for the WatBars.com graphic. I had forgotten about that 
> site.  I have years of experience with a Mustache bar that I used 
> incorrectly too low.  I think I want more rise, brake levers at the side 
> hand position. 
> I don't think I need the more-swept back Billie bar position.
>
> Joe
>
>

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