Steve,

>> I am seriously looking at the new Paul components Reverse Lever 
<https://www.paulcomp.com/shop/components/brake-levers/short-pull/reverse-lever/>on
 
the Albastache 

I didn't want to spend Paul money for a test, but Dia Compe makes a set of 
levers that I got for a song from SOMA during one of their sales. I just 
threw this together last night and will adjust things before wrapping the 
bar.

I've got a moustache (not Albastache) and I stopped using it for the reason 
you cite: When my hands are at the ends of the bar, for better control, I'd 
like to be able to brake.

Of course, I also like to be able to brake from the forward position, where 
I'll be most of the time, so I used a pair of interrupter levers that work 
with this bar diameter. I don't have a good way to mount the shifters, so 
bar-end it is, and I'll rig the rear brake from a second interrupter lever. 
After a quick five miles this morning, I think I'll like it. The Nitto 
dirtdrop I got from a fellow off this list is a great complement to the 
mustache.

cheers -m



On Monday, November 18, 2024 at 12:41:42 PM UTC-5 Steven Seelig wrote:

> On my Ram, I currently have albatross bars and find myself enjoying it 
> mostly unless I'm on a longer distance ride. I do fine for the days when I 
> had the Albastache where I could really stretch out if necessary, however I 
> ditched those because I just couldn't abide with the brake lever position 
> being in the traditional front space.  I live in the city and therefore 
> most of my riding is going to be amongst a lot of action whereby I need 
> clear access to my brakes. It would be different if I live more in the 
> country or suburbs whereby most of my actions were in the stretched out 
> position.
>
> I am seriously looking at the new Paul components Reverse Lever 
> <https://www.paulcomp.com/shop/components/brake-levers/short-pull/reverse-lever/>on
>  
> the Albastache, although Dave's set up might just work for me and would 
> permit me to continue to use bar and shifters.
>
> So many choices?
>
> Steve Seelig, DC
>
> On Monday, November 18, 2024 at 11:37:50 AM UTC-5 Eric Daume wrote:
>
>> I just want to say, I think it’s awesome that Minh choose the QB as his 
>> one bike!
>>
>> Eric
>> Wannabe minimalist, but six bikes now. Do I really need two folding bikes?
>>
>>
>> On Monday, November 18, 2024, Minh <mgian...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I ride my QB with albatross bars (exclusively for about 10 years now), 
>>> for a few years I also rode a hillborne with drops with similiar reach 
>>> measurements.  for example I ran 100-120MM stems on my QB but 80MM on my SH 
>>> with drops.   like Jeffrey says your current stem may become an issue, the 
>>> common rule of thumb is to add 2CM on stem because an albatross will come 
>>> back 2CM, but  140MM might be too much stem, personally i've never had a 
>>> bike with so much stem.
>>>
>>> i might go as far as to say your bike is a little too small for you, but 
>>> before that, what size is your QB?  what is the effective TT?  I would 
>>> start adding those numbers up and see how they would translate to 
>>> albatross.  I don't think you have to add stem, if you just swap to an 
>>> albatross you may find the 'natural' position to be in the hooks or bend 
>>> instead of back at the grip--kinda like how the billie bar translates when 
>>> you swap out an albatross.  
>>>
>>> as far as riding goes, that's very personal so hard to say in words, I 
>>> will say the wide bars do feel good when accelerating on the QB, and I 
>>> don't have issues with control, I do a decent amount of gravel riding and 
>>> at times feel a little under biked but it still feels great on the trail.  
>>>  top of my stem is about level with saddle, so the grips on the bars do sit 
>>> a little bit higher than saddle.  
>>>
>>> as someone that has been riding them for 10+ years i'm a fan, and when I 
>>> had to reduce my bike stable to 1 bike, this is what I kept, partly due to 
>>> how the QB rides overall but i'm sure part of that is the albatross--the 
>>> only bar i've considered swapping it for is the Billie, which is just an 
>>> albatross with more grip area!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, November 18, 2024 at 8:27:41 AM UTC-5 Ryan wrote:
>>>
>>>> What about an albastache? You could still use your existing brake 
>>>> levers and it is more upright
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, November 18, 2024 at 6:55:01 AM UTC-6 jeffrey kane wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hey Joe,
>>>>>
>>>>> First thing you can expect is to tinker - first time upright bar set 
>>>>> ups are a journey (in the best way).
>>>>>
>>>>> Stem length, bar height and reach are likely to be the three areas 
>>>>> you'll fiddle with most at first -  then grip position and maybe in the 
>>>>> end, width if you're really sensitive and OCD in that way that so many of 
>>>>> us here are. I'm a little concerned that you're already comfortable 
>>>>> running 
>>>>> a 12cm stem - keep in mind that upright bars do sweep back, some 
>>>>> ridiculously so.
>>>>> Alba's are nice for their slight bit of a forward perch in the bends - 
>>>>> the Billie bar (my personal favorite) offers that as well.. 
>>>>> I"ve never encountered an adverse handling experience once I've dialed 
>>>>> in an upright bar position - in fact, I have multiple bikes set up for 
>>>>> both 
>>>>>  - with upright & drop bar combos ready for (relatively) quick switching. 
>>>>> Note that the bar and stem always stay together when switching.
>>>>>
>>>>> Second thing to expect is unmitigated joy (for real).
>>>>>
>>>>> Good luck, man!
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sunday, November 17, 2024 at 10:15:45 PM UTC-5 Mojo wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I have a Quickbeam, circa 2005, in need of some freshening change. It 
>>>>>> currently has 44cm-wide Noodle handlebars. The bike is fine, it is 
>>>>>> simple-fun, but it gets passed over a lot for other bikes in the stable. 
>>>>>> All of my road bikes have Noodle bars (and all offroad bikes have Jones 
>>>>>> H 
>>>>>> bars). I thought perhaps some upright bars on the Quickbeam would make 
>>>>>> it 
>>>>>> more unique, more "towny," more often chosen for the daily ride.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To that end I think I would choose the Albatross bar, that features 
>>>>>> some extra rise, some flare, and is not too wide. The Quickbeam's 
>>>>>> current 
>>>>>> Noodle bars are set with the top of the bars about one inch above saddle 
>>>>>> height, and I think I would like the Albatross bars another inch or so 
>>>>>> higher.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, what would I expect in this change to my Quickbeam's handling? I 
>>>>>> know a higher bar and less weight on the front end lightens the 
>>>>>> steering. 
>>>>>> What else should I expect? Also, I currently using a 12cm stem. Would 
>>>>>> that 
>>>>>> work for the Albatross?  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For reference, I am 68 years old and typically ride a ~60 inch gear 
>>>>>> on the Quickbeam, but it has gear inches from 46 to 71 inches with two 
>>>>>> chainrings and a flip-flop hub with a dingle on one side and bail-out 
>>>>>> larger cog on the other.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for your thoughts.
>>>>>> Joe in western Colorado
>>>>>>
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