It's worth noting for anyone wanting to test the general gist of Ron's 
Ortho bars without the price or hassle of tracking them down - I can say 
from experience that the widest Toscos sold by Rivendell (the 65cm, 38.1 
version) are very, very similar to Ron's Ortho bars. Aside from the clamp 
diameter (you'd need a 38.1 faceplate stem), weight, and flex... but if you 
were looking to get a nearly identical riding position and width, Toscos 
would get you there.

I put Orthos on my Gus for a few months, but found them to be a bit too 
flexy for rougher trail riding. I swapped back to my Toscos after a few 
rides on mtn bike trails. I'm keeping them though, because I may use them 
on a future build.


If you love crust orthos, you can have Doom make you a modified copy that 
will fit your Sam they can bump them forward 30mm or so. I have a scaled up 
version of an Albatross on one of my bikes and it’s fantastic. I was 
feeling indulgent with myself and I had them made in titanium. I have an 
exact steel replica of an Ortho on my Gus, but with that frame there aren’t 
any fit issues.

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