I sit here reading this while eating my Dairy Queen blizzard with chocolate 
chip cookie dough. I can’t help but wonder how much weight I could save if I 
took the bell off my bike.? 😎🚴

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Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2024 2:14:14 PM
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Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Help me lighten up Sam

Just some fast ideas. I'm about 145 lbs and don't tour so if carrying capacity 
is a factor things would be different.
It's actually a lot of work to save about a pound. I explored some light saddle 
options but chose a Brooks anyway. I am running the light version of GB or 
Compass tires and tubes on all my bikes and have not been overwhelmed by flats. 
Round through soon detritus alongside the road this morning on my GB Ecureil 
650Bx38 tires that weigh 240g. No problem.
The Sugino XD-2 weights about 680g and my XCD 486g. The Nitto S83 seat post 
weighs 280g and my American Classic weighs 165g.
The IRD QB-95 BB weighs 210g in the 110mm length. My Omni Racer Square Taper 
Titanium weighs 159g.
The Blackburn SS cages weigh 41g. The King Cage Titanium weighs 34.1 with 
screws.
The Shimano Ultegra 6700 12-30 cassette weighs 275g. My B Dop 11-27 cassette 
weighs 100g.
Cheers.
David
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On Sunday, July 28, 2024 at 12:54:49 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Bob — Here are my two shillings. I think your bike is set up very nicely 
with some carefully selected parts from heritage manufacturers. Everything's 
practical. With fenders, racks and dynamo your bike is quite versatile and has 
a timeless appeal. Capable bikes are often, by their nature, on the heavier 
side.

Rather than making any changes, swaps or other modifications I'd suggest simply 
this: go on more overnight trips.

Get your system dialed in as far as packing and what you absolutely need to 
bring. Weigh every item and get a tally of how much you're actually hauling and 
refine from there. The weight data will be helpful. The more you go, the more 
accustomed and conditioned you will become to carrying all your stuff. If you 
have time for another overnighter or two before your pending 5-day tour it 
would be a good opportunity to further refine your rig.

The only change I would encourage, as Bernard suggests above, is to consider 
lower gearing. I could have missed it but what size are the rings you have on 
your double?

It kind of looks like you have an outer ring in the high 40s and a middle ring 
in the low 30s. You might do better with low 40s / high 20s combo. I personally 
do not care for triples or one-by systems. Sub compact doubles all the way! 
Just my personal preference. The double combinations that Riv offers are some 
good jumping off points for possible combinations (I'm not suggesting you need 
to buy a new crankset): 38x24, 42x28. With the XD2 cranks you should have no 
trouble finding substitute chainrings at very nice prices. I run a 42x26 on my 
Hillborne and a 38x24 on my Appaloosa.

I also don't see any specifications on your cassette, what's the range there? 
You might consider a cassette with a larger max cog like a 34t or 36t.

Let us know how things shake out, enjoy your pending tour and cheers to you on 
a nice looking Hillborne.

Eric
On Thursday, July 25, 2024 at 6:44:27 PM UTC-4 ber...@bernardduhon.com wrote:

I agree this summer  I ran a low-low compact double 42-26

& 11-34 cassette  650b wheels 165 crankarm that’s 19 gear inches.

Even overloaded I walked no hills .



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Subject: [RBW] Re: Help me lighten up Sam



Having toured extensively both with expedition loads and credit-card tour 
loads, I’ll add one thing that Steve touched on up above.


It may add weight, but go for a touring gear set up.  3x9.
Something like a 46-36-26 for credit card tours and 44-32-22 for expedition 
tours, with an 11-34 cassette.
You want a low-low gear of about 20 gear inches.
I used to blame the weight, or my legs, but correct gearing made a big 
difference.

The Erie Canal Bike Trail is a nice ride.  Enjoy!

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