Thanks, Angus. I have my eye (the other one is swiveled around to the left)
on a Tubus Tara and some Ortlieb small front panniers ...

I can imagine that a flexing front rack or a floppy front bag would do all
sorts of odd things to the handling.

On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Angus <angusle...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> Patrick,
>
> I have had more handling problems from flexible front racks than from
> flexible rear racks.  I have had good luck with a Tubus front rack and
> making sure items on the front of the bike are not free to flop
> around.
>
> I try and put the small heavy items (tools, food, etc...) in the front
> and the larger bulky items (sleeping bag, pad, tent, clothes) in the
> rear.
>
> Angus
>
>
>
> On Jun 19, 8:22 pm, PATRICK MOORE <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > It was in shallow retrospect grossly, ineptly and almost culpably
> ignorant
> > of me to think I could just take 1 1/2 times a bike's weight and shove it
> on
> > the back anyhow and expect the bike to handle normally. Anyway, I just
> got
> > back from a brief 17 mile out 'n' back -- flat, no hills, but a few
> modest
> > curves -- on the SH, this time with 42 lb in back BUT in the Ortliebs
> > properly installed on the Logo. *What* a huge difference. It's at least
> as
> > good as the Motobecane, probably a bit better -- with this amount of
> weight
> > -- thanks to the stiffer rack (I assume it's stiffer; it's a Tubus and it
> > has more struts) and, I daresay, stiffer frame -- it's not light 531,
> > anyway. The bike still wanders, and I expect that after a couple of hours
> on
> > it even this amount of wandering would get tiresome, but it is hugely,
> > emphatically and excessively better than with the Axioms hanging off the
> > rear of the rack. How obvious in retrospect!
> >
> > Anyway, I think that the ideal, that will make this bike quite wonderful
> as
> > a tourer -- and I deliberately chose it over the beefier Atlantis -- will
> be
> > to take, say, 15 or so lb from the rear and put it on the front.
> >
> > Which leads to the question: how best to load the front? Platform or
> porteur
> > rack and big bag, or low riders? I guess, from what others say, that I
> will
> > be carrying 40 to 50 lb total of load and, again, perhaps 3:2 rear:front.
> >
> > So, porteur or low riders? And, what is the best value for each -- I
> mean,
> > brands, models? I know Tubus and Ortlieb are safe bets, but they are of
> > course expensive.
> >
> > Thanks. I may have an Ostrich and a Nashbar rack, plus decaleur bits, to
> > sell.
> >
> > --
> > Patrick Moore
> > Albuquerque, NM
> > For professional resumes, contact
> > Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com
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