I can confirm this.  I have replaced 105 derailleurs with campy CD  on
both doubles (48/34) & (44/30) & a triple (48/34/26) and have gotten
significantly improved shifting.  The campy feels a little slow on the
tandem(50/36/24) but there is a lot more stress on the chain with a
tandem.

Michael

On Jun 19, 11:50 am, David Faller <dfal...@charter.net> wrote:
>
>  I don't know from experience, but I've read that Campy
> FD's are one of the more forgiving derailleurs.
>
> On 6/18/2010 9:12 PM, XO-1.org Rough Riders wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hi:
>
> > I've never gotten suitable shifting with a TA Pro 5 Vis crankset with
> > 32/46 rings. This is mated with Shimano 9-speed on the rear (11x34)
> > and bar-end shifters (Shimano 9 also). First I had it set up with a
> > Suntour Superbe Pro front derailleur and it wanted to overshift once
> > every 25 to 50 shifts, no matter how I adjusted the derailleur.
>
> > The local bike guru, who knows stuff old and new, suggested a modern
> > front derailleur, as they are designed to shifter narrower 9/10-speed
> > chains, whereas the old Suntour derailleur was meant for 6/7-speed
> > chains. The thought being: Maybe the "old" derailleur's cage is wider
> > because the chains for which it was intended were wider; now that
> > wider cage made it throw a narrow chain too far. That make some
> > sense.
>
> > Well, I've installed a brand new Ultegra 10-spd front derailleur and
> > it seems to keep the chain on either one ring or the other, and it
> > downshifts fine, but it takes a major tug on the shifter to get it to
> > move the chain to the big ring. In fact, when I upshift, what it's
> > trying to do is shove the chain between the rings, into the hole
> > between the five arms of the right crank, in the sizable vertical gap,
> > or hole, created by the 14 tooth difference in ring size. Of course,
> > modern rings, with their ramps and pins, would probably toss that
> > chain right up onto the big ring instantaneously. But I like the low Q-
> > factor of these TA arms (this is actually my GF's bike I am talking
> > about; she's 5'4" and prefer the narrower tread even more than I do),
> > plus the ring sizes available are preferable to a "compact" design.
>
> > Yes, the derailleur is mounted as low as possible abov the top rights.
> > In fact, the front derailleur cage is so long, it almost hits the
> > right chainstay down at the bottom. I find that odd since a 46 tooth
> > big ring is not small, at all. I don't see how this could work on a
> > crank with a smaller big ring.
>
> > Any thoughts or suggestions?
>
> > BTW, sorry I don't seem to have a good shot of the bike, or especially
> > its drivetrain online, though you can see her with the bike (gold 1974
> > Williams converted to 650B wheels) in front of the Nate Harrison Grade
> > sign near the bottom of this post:
>
> >http://www.xo-1.org/2008/12/rough-riding-northern-san-diego-county.html
>
> > We're headed out to Ramona / Black Canyon tomorrow and I'll get some
> > shots of the parts in question then, in case that might help any of
> > you help me assay the situation. Here's the blog report of a semi-
> > similar version of the riding we're doing tomorrow:
>
> >http://www.xo-1.org/2009/01/rough-riding-north-eastern-san-diego.html
>
> > Thanks.
>
> > - Chris Kostman
> > La Jolla, CA
> >http://www.adventurecorps.com
> >http://www.XO-1.org
> >http://www.the508.com

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