OTOH: I recall a practically new Schwinn Collegiate bought at Goodwill that had a 5 speed square-tooth wide range freewheel shifted by a second-gen Alvit rear derailleur pulled by a massive, chromed steel lever clamped to the stem quill; possibly Suntour ratcheting? I don't recall.
At any rate, I was struck at how well it shifted, if you moved the lever confidently and with authority. The chain would move promptly to the next cog with a loud "thump" without any rattling afterward and the need to trim the derailleur. Again, the system seemed to be in new condition. On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 11:15 AM Patrick Moore <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote: > FWIW, I read a few years ago that using a chain 1 generation more advanced > than one's cassette improved shifting because the later and narrower chain > avoids rubbing on adjacent cogs a wee but noticeable bit better than the > earlier chain. I've been using 11 sp chains on my 10 sp cassettes, and > while the difference isn't striking, I think it does keep the chain quieter > while not in any way compromising shifting precision or speed. > > In any event, the best friction shifting I've enjoyed is 10 cogs with > cassettes built using not only 10 sp spacers but real 10 sp cogs, with both > 10 sp and 11 sp chains. The 9 and 8 sp cassettes I used had proper spacers > but cogs of all ages and generations including 7s and Uniglides, but even > those shifted fine -- I never complained, even tho' my 10s shift better. > > I said yesterday and someone else also pointed out that a great deal of > friction shifting precision results from a happy match of shifter with > derailleur. The 9 speed drivetrain that shifted in friction almost as well > as the "proper" 10 sp systems was a bastard cassette shifted by a > Microshift rd pulled by a first-gen Silver BES. Lovely, tho' due to the > mismatch of the cogs, not quite as lovely as the current Barcon + 7402 + 10 > sp cassette build from proper 10 sp cogs carrying 11 sp chain. > > Patrick Moore, who also found that small-barrel Retrofriction dt shifters > shifted 10 sp Am Classic close ratio cassettes very, very well, back circa > 2003-2005. > > > > On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 8:08 AM Hoch in ut <cacka...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I’ve tried 8,9,10 speeds with friction shifting. 10 speed, nope. 9 was ok >> But settled on 8-speed for pretty much all friction shift bikes. >> > > -- Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Executive resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, letters, and other writing services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- *When thou didst not, savage, k**now thine own meaning,* *But wouldst gabble like a** thing most brutish,* *I endowed thy purposes w**ith words that made them known.* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CALuTfgs1PvP9vDX_c8PQePNkxmh-M2kFzNLCB9o1yAfxhcsmKw%40mail.gmail.com.
